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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The difference between schools like Duquesne, GMU, & VCU and schools like Arizona, Kansas, Nebraska, Mississippi, Oklahoma, & Iowa is that the latter are in states in which not a lot of people are sitting around studying the USNews rankings. They often see elite private colleges as a waste of money, so many of even the best students are happy to attend the U of ____ or _____ State U.

So in Va, Pa,Mass, NJ, NY etc the top students are fighting to get in Ivies & Stanford /Chicago/MIT etc. They are usually not happy about attending their own state schools like UMass, Rutgers, SUNY and so on. They are even less happy about attending their in-state publics which accept 80+%.

The bottom line is if you go to U of Arizona, Kansas, South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma State etc your classmates will include lots of that state’s smartest students, which is quite different from UMass & SUNY, much less CNU, VCU etc.

But remember, just because a lot of the best students in Kansas head to the U of Kansas, it doesn’t mean most of the students at the U of Kansas are top students. There is a mixture of students at such colleges, but they DO include a lot of valedictorians & other top students. [/quote]

As a former "top" student from Massachusetts, I can confirm that this is true regarding UMass. However, I can also report that my three high school friends who went to UMass all live happy, productive lives and make more money than I, with my degree from a fancy college, do.[/quote]

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