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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The constitution’s 22nd amendment states that no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.

Article II states that the President shall hold his office during the term of four years.

Given the events of January 6, 2021, do you think Donald Trump will voluntarily relinquish the presidency in January of 2029—as required by the constitution—if he wins the 2024 election?[/quote]

No. [/quote]

Do you think Trump would cancel the 2028 election, and presumably all future elections?  Or would he just run again in 2028 and then refuse to accept the results if he loses?[/quote]
I have often wondered what would happen if he won again and then wanted to run again for a third term counter to the Constitution. I think technically the states would have to refuse to put him on the ballot because he would be ineligible, just as ineligible as someone who is only 30, or someone who was actually born in Kenya. But lord knows there are about 20 or more states that would put him on the ballot anyway, Constitution be damned. [b]So then someone would have to have standing to sue to get him removed. How would that work?[/b][/quote]

I don’t know, but FWIW my expectation is that in a “second” term [b]Trump will not be squeamish about appointing [i]extreme[/i] loyalists in critical positions.  If we get to that point, where is the buffer?  Who will have the authority to tell him what he can and can’t do?[/b][/quote]

The bolded is key. Trump already signed an Executive Order before he left office to do just that:

[url]https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-presidency-schedule-f-federal-employees[/url]

People talking about court decisions and asking how would he stay are operating under the long held norms in this country that Trump has no intention of operating under. Here are things (not an exhaustive list) Trump (and his associates) did during his initial term that violated the law and/or norms:

-Repeated violations of the letter and spirit of the vacancies law. This allowed people in positions requiring Senate confirmation to wield power illegally, and the norm violated is the Acting Director of X should maintain the status quo and not initiate large changes/big decisions:
-Ordered the head of the GSA to not cooperate with the Biden campaign during the transition- violation of a long held norm;
-Deployed unidentified federal forces to guard sites in Washington, DC in Summer 2020 (private army type stuff);
-Cooked up a fake elector scheme;
-Instigated an insurrection to target a particularly vulnerable part of our electoral process;
-Refused (and continues to refuse) to concede and election he lost in an attempt to de-legitimize the winner and current President;
-Worked to sow doubt in the integrity of our electoral process;
-Refused to appear at the ceremony transferring power to his successor.

I think most Americans don't pay attention or can't really conceive of "it happening here," but it absolutely can. [/quote]

This. Our democracy is only as strong as our will to preserve it. The constitution is a piece of paper. George Washington willing stepped down as has every president since, until Trump. [/quote]

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