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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1. We charge our 2 EV’s from solar panels and use free charging at work, which equals about $5200 a year for both cars (gas savings plus electricity savings). 
2. Less maintenance on EV’s (no oil change, transmission issues, etc) which averages to $840 in savings a year per car (industry average numbers https://caredge.com/tesla/model-3/maintenance), so $1680 total for both cars
3. Free street parking in our city for EV’s, around $200 a year per car, so $400 total
4. Purely subjective, but I would pay $10k extra for a car to be environmentally friendly, just like I pay for composting service etc.

So the total savings per car is $3640 per year.  If we keep these cars for 10 years (I drove my last ICE car for 20 years), it will be $36,400 per car.

You can see above that the biggest driver is gas cost. We drive quite a bit compared to when we lived in ny and put 10k miles on our car in 3 years. In that scenario, an ev would not have been cost effective, and parking garages tended to gouge you on charging cost. For a person who drives 25k miles a year, the gas savings go up to $4300 a year, and $5200 including maintenance. [/quote]

Somebody is paying for your free electricity.  Do you know if it is coal or nuclear?  What is the pollution and carbon impact from the production of just your vehicle’s battery alone?

Those numbers are largely inflated and don’t apply to most people.

EVs and gas vehicles both pollute but just in different ways.  I consider them equal in their negative environmental impact.[/quote]

It’s just wrong to say that EVs are equally as bad as ICE because of batteries. ICE use gallon after gallon of petroleum, vs a battery that is made once and can be recycled when the car is done.

The only studies that find the two equivalent are studies done by people who want to be able to say that, not people trying to do a fair assessment. [/quote]

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