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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most feds on this board are in exempt positions anyway so Schdule F doesn’t change anything. It only means something if you are in a non-exempt position.[/quote]

Can the exempt positions already be fired at will?[/quote]

[b]“Excepted Service” can be fired at will.  [/b]

Separately, SES can be reassigned to any other SES job at the whim of the government, which sometimes gets used to encourage someone to retire or quit.[/quote]

That is straight up not true once you pass the probationary period an excepted service employee has full MSPB appeal rights.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/employee-relations/employee-rights-appeals/#url=Appeals[/quote]

So if you’re already in the excepted service, and your position is converted to Schedule F (which, as I understand it, would be part of the excepted service), then wouldn’t you still have full MSPB appeal rights as a Schedule F employee if you already completed your two-year probationary period?

I’m genuinely asking here, because I don’t fully understand this.

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No. The point of schedule F is to create a schedule that, like schedule C, has no MSPB rights or other protections. So schedule A folks (attorneys etc) who are moved into it on the pretext of being "policymakers" would lose their appeal rights and job protections.

And for those who say it would cause too much chaos, that is rather the point. The Trump administration delights in chaos. They already think government is ineffective, except that they think the "deep state" is terrifically effective at foiling new initiatives. So they will not particularly care if they truly make it that way.[/quote]

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