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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]US healthcare is gutter trash.

Concierge is a S stain on the country.

The entire country is doomed.[/quote]

If you think you get easy access to PCPs who lavish generous time with you in any of the major countries with national healthcare, you're seriously mistaken. Even in the best national healthcare system, it's going to be more like Kaiser (at best) and plenty still have private healthcare to get quicker access and more personalized care. [/quote]

Exactly this. My family in England says healthcare is terrible there. Years long waits for surgeries too.  [/quote]

That’s what decades of underfunding the NHS accomplished. The rest of Europe isn’t facing the same situation [/quote]

Yes, this is the common thing: underfund publicly funded healthcare to the point it starts to break apart, and then claim it's because it isn't private. No, it works well and people are happy with it when it is funded appropriately. And that is cheaper than private, and with better outcomes, when it isn't being bled back into starvation.[/quote]

The problems with the US are:
A. unhealthy lifestyles due to a variety of reasons ranging from car reliant communities to surrounding people constantly with ultra processed food combined with to toxic stress for marginalized groups
B. significant portion of the population lacks health insurance
C. Healthcare is extremely expensive

Nationalized healthcare could solve B but not A, and might address C but not easily or immediately. And the large portion of the population with good health insurance, especially PPOs, is going to fight tooth and nail to keep the status quo. Just ask anyone who has switched from Kaiser to a PPO. Kaiser is good for keeping costs low and reducing administrative burden, but they achieve the low costs by not providing care that people could benefit from, but don't immediately need. [/quote]

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