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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Slightly better older article.

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/maryland-dems-want-to-drop-penalties-for-students-who-commit-certain-crimes-at-school-democrats-annapolis-md-project-baltimore-crisis-in-the-classroom-sheila-ruth-law-proposal-bill-

Obviously "put kids in jail" and "do nothing"  are both bad options. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if the police came to arrest your kids every time they talked back to you or slapped their sibling. So why is it OK in school?

[b]We need sensible tools for classroom safety[/b], including separating children who can't control their behavior, while still providing educational opportunity and showing respect.[/quote]

How has that gone so far? My experience as a parent has been that MCPS tied the hands of teachers and administrators to deal with violent and predatory children, in the name of "ending the school to prison pipeline."

Detention and suspension were taken off the table, and SROs were removed from schools. In return, we were supposed to get increased mental health support, alternative placements, and actual tools for keeping classrooms safe.

None of those materialized. So now teachers and administrators have no tools at their disposal other than building a case strong enough to get kids moved to another school, which is bad for everyone.

We've given this approach a chance, and schools have become less safe as a result. Let's stop the insanity and give teachers and administrators a full set of tools to deal with violent kids in the classroom.

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SRO's were not removed from the school.

Kids are still disciplined.

You seem to be really out of touch of what is really going on.

What is missing, has been missing for 25 years is expulsion and making it easier for principals to send kids to alternate schools.

That is not new. [/quote]

SROs were diluted and renamed as CEOs. So we have them, but we have a worse, less effective version of them.

If you think there's no difference then you're either not in schools or willfully ignorant.

As far as kids still disciplined, I imagine there's variance by school. I will tell you at my kids' DCC high school, Kennedy, discipline is lax and nonexistent. I believe the W schools have admin teams that might be firmer on this front though. I don't know. That's the problem with MCPS: There's so much variability that it's to pin down which problems are systemic or school-specific. But given that student discipline is a systemwide complaint, I'm inclined to believe it's systemic.[/quote]

Lies!  This poster twists facts to push their agenda. Ignore them.[/quote]

DP. This is just silly and trollish. If you are a bored teenager, head over to Roblox. You’ll have more fun over there.

The PP is correct: The SRO program has been diluted thanks to the political pressure of a couple council members. (Against the wishes of all principals, too.)

And as a teacher, I can FIRSTHAND tell you that discipline is lax and nonexistent at some of our schools.

So take your silly “lies” nonsense somewhere else. [/quote]

The SRO program was eliminated because it's been [b]conclusively shown[/b] that it doesn't work and puts kids at greater risk. They sure didn't do a lot of good at either Parkland or Uvalde.

MCPS isn't a law enforcement agency. If you want order, call MCPD and file criminal charges otherwise stop complaining.[/quote]

This actually isn't the case. I know you keep saying it's the case, and then talking about two mass shooting events as "proof" but beyond those two examples you've shown no proof.

No one is saying that we need SROs for mass shootings, but SROs can and should be in schools to deal with everyday violence and, hopefully, to identify escalating situations before they get to the point of violence.

If you have actual data showing a correlation between removing SROs and safer schools, please share. Note that the request is for data, not vibes. [/quote]

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