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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Thank you PP. Someone who is rationale and has scientific/medical understanding. The paranoia on this site over STIs is astounding.[/quote]

PP has no clue.  HSV-1 antibody had no effect on the rate of acquiring HSV-2 infection (the HSV-2 seroconversion rate was 5.1 vs. 5.2 per 100 person-years in those who did and did not have preexisting HSV-1 antibody).
And it’s not 80% of population, according to their link. It goes by gender, race and age. [/quote]

Here is the link again since you seem to be confused. It’s from Johns Hopkins and clearly states that between 50 to 80% of the population has herpes 1:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/herpes-hsv1-and-hsv2#:~:text=Fifty%20to%2080%20percent%20of,in%20or%20around%20the%20mouth.

Again, no one knows the precise number because it is so ubiquitous and minor. And yes, having type 1 is protective, though not preventative for type 2. Again, this isn’t really known or much studied. There are way more important issues that the medical profession doesn’t know about like cancer and schizophrenia. Herpes is put on the back burner.

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There was a different link above that gives more exact stats. Protective in what sense ?  You are giving dangerous and unproven ideas about HSV1; those who already carry it might think they ate somehow immune to HSV2, and stop using protection [/quote]

You’re focused on just one study. They is no consensus as to the exact percentage of people who have herpes. Protective in the sense that if you have type 1, you are less likely to get type 2. It’s the same as having a circumcision makes you less likely to get hpv. You can still get it, but the risk is lowered. Herpes is very mild for most people. About 90 percent of people who have genital herpes do not know that they have it. That’s because consistent evidence shows that if you have type 1, even if you get infected with type 2, the infection will be asymptomatic and sub clinical.

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/185/8/1019/814003

Yes, pretty much everyone has herpes. Doctors do not test for herpes 1. Here’s a Washington Post article that explains it in easy to understand detail:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/11/02/you-probably-have-herpes-but-thats-really-okay/

Stop making a mountain out of mole hill.[/quote]

Wash Post article requires a subscription. I disagree  that almost everyone has herpes and no need to test. You cite an older research  article from  1994 when this infection was in fact more common. And in fact it states “The seroprevalence of HSV-2 was higher in persons with HSV-1 antibody”. Just the opposite of what you say. hsv1 is just as common the cause of genital herpes as hsv2. The more recent research from 2016 shows it’s now 35% hsv1 positive in white male population, for example. This happened due to raising awareness, testing and anti vitals use. Yes if you add up US totals for all races it’s more than 50%. But people more commonly date within their own race than inter racially. For Asians hsv1 rate it’s under 10%  as they tend to date/marry within their race which historically had very low % of hsv. 
What I’m trying to say is that people should try to minimize the exposures to infections when dating, and not date based on premise than “everyone has it”. Not everyone has either herpes -  I met many people who don’t (I date white men). These people did test regularly and used protection or were in long marriages. In some  couples  one spouse is positive but they are careful so the other spouse remains negative. I hate it when someone positive tries to present my need to be protected as something abnormal and coerces into types of sex I don’t want at early dating stages, just because they could have an infection.
 And hopefully herpes vaccine comes soon.[/quote]

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