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[quote=Anonymous][quote]You said there's no conclusive evidence to the issues of students doing better when taught by those of the same race. Well, the operative word is conclusive and that's all you hanging your hat on, then there's evidence out there that it is working. Some your most profound schools in this country was found on this very premise and are quite proficient in this decade.

C'mon DCPS built a high-school on the premise to serve solely an AA school population and has not apologized for it over the 40 years of existence. Nope, it is not Dunbar High School.

If your are going in overdrive to recruit then that might be the problem as it might seem you only want AA male teachers to fill a quota. Damn if you do and damned if you don't.

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I'm violating my long time self imposed rule of never posting more than twice on a thread because you and I (assuming the same person, which, I know, is odd in this anonymous space) are having a good conversation and I care enough about this topic to respectfully disagree with you.

I never said that I was hanging my hat on conclusive data, rather I pointed out that conclusive data, which doesn't exist, *can't* exist because no one is in agreement with what constitutes "doing better". This is the hardest part about studying effective teaching...no one can quantify what it is. Which is exactly why we need a diverse strategy for student success. As for your evidence about what is working...as I said, it depends on your measure. What exactly are you referring to? What places are proficient? By what measures? How are those measures indicative of "doing better"? These are important questions that, if we want to get serious about parsing out what it means to be successful in teaching and learning, we have to discuss.

You also misrepresent my position when you suggest that the part of my multi model approach to reaching students that concerns recruiting AA teachers, especially males, is simply meeting a quota. I never said that and I certainly don't believe that. Read my post again. I suggested that by recruiting teachers who look like their students (which you seem to favor) we build a bridge that gains student trust, may well increase motivation, and can improve student experience. This isn't filling a quota, this is finding excellent educators, finding committed individuals who will make excellent educators, and putting them in the classroom.

This will likely be my last post here because of my self imposed rule. At some point, one is just trying to clarify the same cases and that is straight up boring to the internet. That said, thank you for giving me a lot to think about and for the good chat.[/quote]

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