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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is Jay Z’s attempt to have Beyoncé win best country album to spite T swift… good song though [/quote]
that makes zero sense - even if Bey won the award, it make so sense that Jay Z or B would think this has any bit of affect on TS[/quote]

Effect. Makes perfect sense.  It’s directed right at swift who started out as a country artist then moved into mainstream pop and robbed Beyoncé of her glory. [/quote]

NP. It doesn’t make sense. Also, Taylor and Beyoncé have been supporting each other at their respective movie openings. [/quote]
TS has already won country album of the year. Bey making a country album is zero to TS — literally does not matter in any way. [/quote]

Fearless beat out I am Sasha Fierce for Album of the Year the same year it also won Country Album of the Year, and songs from the album were also up for best Pop songs against Bey. Jay z’s comment about not being in the right category was directed at swift and his comments about race at the Grammys were a veiled way of saying, this country white lady keeps besting my wife. Now this is their way of saying you can win at pop? Well we can win at country. It may mean nothing to swift but it’s a blatant ploy to try to her Bey a country album award if she can’t win album of the year.  Maybe even get her some country music awards too. [/quote]

I disagree.  You truly think for Jay Z/Beyonce getting revenge on taylor swift is bigger than fighting systemic racism?  Those are reasons Taylor would use because she is all about personal revenge.  That is why her “getting back at the music industry” was not focused on the music industry, but only on the Scooter guy (see the imagery in her video for conformation) Personal revenge like that is not something someone who faced true racism would do, they would be focused more on changing the institution.[/quote]

Sure okay and that’s  why he made a rambling speech about racial discrimination at the Grammys. Because he plans to change the system. No he plans to win his wife a country award to say not just to swift but to the music industry as a whole, you passed my wife over and now we’re going after what is typically a white category. But if you don’t think this has something indirectly to do with swift, you’re wrong. Beyoncé herself may be supportive of her but her husband holds a grudge. [/quote]

You are missing the bigger picture that black people have been dealing with awards discrimination for decades. IF this is your stance, at least acknowledge the discrimination that blacks have faced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_of_racial_bias_in_Grammy_Awards#:~:text=Allegations%20of%20racism%20in%20the,the%20controversial%20voting%20process%20itself.

I mean Beyoncé last lost to Adele and Styles, so why do you think this about Taylor, who herself isn’t a country artist anymore?

Maybe you are someone who thinks everything is about Taylor, and no other musicians should exist or compare.   I mean Taylor herself is vendetta queen, so if you are overly immersed in her, you may start thinking like that.

If you have any links to bolster your argument, go for it, but it is far fetched to me that everyone is out to get Taylor.[/quote]

DP.  Blacks have faced discrimination in all facets of life for decades.  Does that mean Beyonce DESERVES grammys all the time?  Nope.  Being Black doesn't automatically make someone good or worthy or whatever.  Anymore than being white or anything else does.

Some of us think she is awful and it has nothing to do with her being black.  But you'll tell us unless we like her and think everything she does is brilliant, we're racist.  And it is getting old and undermines cases where we really do need to work on things.[/quote]

Huh maybe you are right, none of it has to do with race. I guess then Beyoncé  learned from Taylor that spite sells and will get her more Grammys. [/quote]

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