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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Theres a lot less flexibility since you sign up for the two year package, the courses in math and science are are less rigurous, presumably there is more writing to make up for these shrtcomings. Not sure a 10 page writeup at the end redeems all these shortcomings, and the extended essay format is somewhat artificial and awkward. Other aspects of the program like the theory of knowledge feel gimmicky, nowhere will you find anything similar. The writing preparation seems to be focusing on the quantity instead of quality, but of course it depends on school, teacher and the student.[/quote]
maybe, but the TOK and EE essays are graded by the IB org.

I didn't read all of DC's papers in IBDP, but I do know that they had to do a ton of research and experiment for their EE. DC chose the EE for their IB HL math class.

IMO, this is one of the best parts of IBDP - the research and analytical writing.  I don't think the AP English classes do this much writing.[/quote]

I’m wondering what kind of experiment you’d do for a high level math extended essay, perhaps you’re confused about what he actually did. Undergrad math and science classes are still mostly problem sets, lab reports and exams, do these well and you’re not going to be unprepared.

The theory of knowledge essay exemplifies how inflexible the program is, the topic doesn’t strike me as so important that every student has to write a paper on it. Also not a big fan of minimum word length requirements, makes some students adopt a convoluted writing style.

The AP diploma, research and capstone, is very similar but definitely not as successful as the IB program. Either students interested in writing gravitate towards IB or when given the choice prefer a class more focused on building the knowledge base that might help them more with college admissions.
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You can wonder all you want, but I read DC's paper, and saw DC do the experiments. They got a 1580 on the SAT and is studying CS, straight As in college so far.

AP classes are nothing like IB classes.  DC and all of the IB kids take both AP and IB classes.  How many kids do you know who self study for IB exams, and get a 7?  Whereas plenty of IB students self study for AP exams and get 5s, my DC included.

Almost all IB students have stated that IB has prepared them well for college.  I don't think all AP students can say the same.

You post this dribble a lot.  You've never had a kid who took both AP and IB, yet you have such strong opinions on IB. Oh, that's right.. you can have opinions about something you have never experienced because you "researched" it.  :roll:  :lol: [/quote]

Got it, you read through your child’s paper and saw the experiments he did for his HL [b]math[/b] essay. Sorry, but there’s not much experimentation in math, bizarre that you’re posting made up stories about your child’s success.

The fact that no AP kids self study for the IB exam, while the reverse is true, is actually an argument [b]against[/b] IB. It’s likely because the IB credit is not as widely accepted to colleges.

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You're awfully sure of what IB entails for someone who's never had a child in it.

You really think that there are no IB kids who major in CS or Eng and have a high SAT score?

You are so ignorant and uninformed. Please stop posting.

To OP, it's a challenging program and heavy on writing. It will prepare your kids for college, but getting the IB Diploma is not an advantage for US colleges, and colleges are less likely to take IB credit than AP credit.  But, it will show the college that the student took the most rigorous courses offered.[/quote]

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