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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]With grade inflation they really need to start looking at scores more heavily.

Ivies are leaning that way.  Dartmouth and Yale both did a 5-year study and show standardized test scores are the most indicative of success.  They followed TO and those that submitted high scores too.  The TO were more likely to be on grade probation and grade probation has increased a lot since TO.[/quote]

Both Yale and Dartmouth will be test optional for the [b]2024-2025[/b] admissions cycle.

Happy New Year.[/quote]

Any unhooked kids applying test optional to top schools will be automatically rejected as it will be assumed that they have low scores.[/quote]

What about the discussion in that other thread lately where the OP wanted to know if her kid should submit a 34 ACT to Vanderbilt (not to mention Yale or Dartmouth). A good number of posters said not to because it’s too low and the kid will be rejected. The thinking here seems to be that “unhooked” kids, however you define that, have slim to no chance at any top school unless they submit a 35/1550 or greater. 
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