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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A LEASHED dog recently growled and lunged at me walking on the sidewalk. The owner ignored me like I was invisible while they TALKED to the dog. Just because it is on a leash doesn’t mean the owner is in control of the animal. [/quote]

First, it sounds like this particular dog was under control.  Second, what do to think the owner should have done?  [/quote]

DP but a dog who is lunging at people who walk by on the sidewalk is not under control. I mean, better for that dog to be on a leash than not, but dogs who consistently pull at leashes and respond to bystanders by lunging, growling, or barking are not properly socialized.

And in a civilized society, if your dog lunges at and growls at someone, you should at least acknowledge that person and mumble an apology or something. It's fine to attend to your dog, but your dog is threatening a person. Imagine if a large child behaved in this way, lunging at or growling at a stranger on the street, and their parent just ignored that persona and just chatted with their kid like it had not happened. Would you feel reassured? Safe?

Pretend we live in a society and our well-being is interconnected and we all owe each other a basic duty of care.[/quote]

So you advocate while the dog is being trained, it . . . not go on walks?

It sounds like the owner had control of the dog, and after it lunged at the PP, he or she attended to the dog (in other words, spoke to it).  If you're really getting twisted up about this, you are just looking to be mad. [/quote]

Actually, if the dog in question was in the process of being trained, [b]it is even more important that the person walking him communicate that to the other person.[/b] You say "sorry, he's still being socialized, you may want to keep your distance." This is what a responsible dog owner who is in the process of leash training/socializing a new dog would do.

But more likely, it was someone who has no idea how to train or socialize the dog, is used to the dog pulling on the leash and behaving aggressively towards others, and therefore it didn't even occur to them to say anything. [/quote]

dp  If you truly have a dog that lunges and barks at another person what you said is way too much. If my dog did that I would need ALL of my attention on my dog to get him away from you.  Why don't you get that?  The majority of dog owners who have reactive dogs already feel shame and blamed for their dogs' behavior.  We honestly don't need to worry about stranger's opinions.  Just kindly move out of the way and go about your day. Let me talk to my dog and not you.[/quote]

Someone who is afraid of being attacked by your dog who is lunging and growling at them is not "shaming and blaming" you. They are afraid. Of the animal with bared teeth who is behaving towards them with hostility in a public space. Yes, you do need to worry about them.

The way you describe this is so emblematic of the problem with the bad dog owners. [b]You want us all to treat your "reactive dog" like they are a child with special needs,[/b] instead of what they actually are, which is an untrained animal who poses a threat to other people's health and well-being. You feel shame and blame? Go see a therapist, it's not relevant to me.

Better hope your dog doesn't successfully attack someone while you are out walking it, because then you'll have to worry about your dog (who will be put down) as well as the innocent bystander who was harmed by YOUR negligence and irresponsibility.

Feel shame! Feel blame! It is your fault. If you cannot properly train and control your dog, DON'T GET A DOG.[/quote]

You are confused.  You can be trained and still be reactive.  Being reactive is a result of their feelings and it can be biological.  I get that you don't care but, sometimes you get the dog you get and they have problems.  And by the way I am not expecting you to treat my dog. In fact, I would prefer you ignore.  Just kindly do not expect me to talk to you, do not walk super close to us  ( this is very dangerous for any dog) and cross the street when you see that there is a dog that is lunging at you. btw, if a dog is barking and lunging it is reactive, not "reactive"

About the shame and blame you sound very unhinged.   When you have a child or dog that misbehaves you can feel mildly shamed but, it isn't pathological that requires therapy.  And I am being very responsible with my dog[/quote]

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