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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, OP is correct. The way schools use test optional now, there is no difference between a 1200 and a 1500 (both are advised to apply test optional), but all the difference in the world between a 1500 and a 1520. Which puts kids scoring at the upper end of the test optional range under enormous pressure to get their objectively very good scores up to the reportable level. [/quote]

I advise people to submit scores above 1300 except to t20. Most people aren't thinking about those schools in the first place. If the education you want can only be found at a t20 then anything over 1400 can be used. The odds are against you but going TO when you have a 1400 just let's the admissions officers assume you have a 1050.[/quote]

Do you know how true this is?  I always wondered about it.  My kid has a 1480- which I think is a great score, but it seems like (based on what I read on this board), it is a test optional score for the top 30 schools.  I keep hearing mixed things.  Regardless - my kid sent her score to all the schools that she applied to- which includes a few in the top 20- we'll see what happens.
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I hope you agree that acceptance to a top 20 is a crapshoot whether or not a test score is submitted. A test score is not the determining factor in admissions for such schools. This is what people either don't understand or want to accept.

So...if your DC with the 1480 warrants admission to a top 20 based on the [b]totality[/b] of the application, great. If not, one can almost guarantee that an applicant with a 1580 got rejected too. That's just the way it is with these schools.[/quote]

That's a really good point about the value of the test scores.  Yeah - I told my kid that it's kind of like a lottery/shot in the dark these days.  At this point, we know that even targets are difficult.  We know people with her scores who got rejected to FSU and Clemson (these are some of the target schools that my kid is still waiting on).  A few years ago, I used to think these schools were a safety.  When we did our tour at UPenn, our guide had a similar SAT score as my kid and got waitlisted, and ultimately admitted (but she applied during the Covid when a lot of kids were getting off the waitlist due to applicants deferring).  You're right, the totality of the application is so important. [/quote]

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