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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So here's my question for people who have watched it: does it somehow excuse or justify President Snow's psychopathy?

Haven't read any of the books. Watched the film trilogy and loved it more on re-watches. I have dealt with President Snow-types at work and in my family, and at this point I can't deal with a villain origin story if the villain's choices are not made clear/if the villain isn't held accountable for their choices.

I also would love to hear how this movie's romance is portrayed, since I don't think a psychopath is capable of falling in love.

I may sound like a stickler, but after you actually literally deal with these people in RL, you become very wary of the subconscious messaging in movies.[/quote]

I don’t think that it justifies his bad behavior/ psychopathy but it reveals that his descent into being a ruthless psychopath happened gradually as he was corrupted slowly by not just his own ambition but also by fascist state apparatus such as the evil head game master played by Viola Davis.

Also it reveals that Snow is not capable of true love either platonic or romantic  however, he did cry over betraying his good friend and when turning against Lucy Gray. So it depicted him as having a heart but one that gradually closed down and hardened.

I agree OP - the movie was considerably better than I expected.[/quote]

Haven't seen the movie but read the book and was thinking about it trying to decide whether to pay to stream the movie.

I think it's not even ambition that motivated Snow at the start, but pride in keeping up the Snow name and just basic survival. He sees getting the scholarship to the university as his only path forward that will allow his family to keep their penthouse and just have enough money to feed themselves. It was good to see his love and affection for Tigris, that he actually had human emotions.

I thought the book was ambiguous about whether he killed Lucy Gray. Did others see it that way?

It also was unclear to me whether she really did intend for Snow to get bitten by a snake and die or whether she was just taking a long time to find and collect the katniss, enough time for Snow to spiral into paranoid delusions and see things that may not have been real. Like did she just lose the scarf or was she actually trying to trick him?

There were a lot of clues through Lucy's songs and dialogue about how she does what it takes to get by. It's hard to tell if she actually had feeling for Snow or if she realized her chances of survival would be much higher if he fell for her. Maybe it was an act at first and then became real? Or real enough?[/quote]

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