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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A kid with high nnat and/or cogat but low Iready and reading (used to be dra) has very low chance to be admitted to AAP because aart is aware of the prep thing, so the holistic approach is actually more accurate compare to just based on nnat/cogat. And like people said even with heavy prep still not every kid get high nnat/cogat. Some have high score on everything but still not admitted in probably because at a very competitive school so the bar is very high.[/quote]

"the holistic approach is actually more accurate compare to just based on nnat/cogat" -- Ehhh, I'd frankly just have a clear, objective standard than a "holistic approach."  Holistic approaches are also susceptible to gaming (albeit you need to have social capital rather than the ability to prepare for a test) and consequently have a tendency to reinforce the status quo.  A holistic approach simply allows for FCPS to control the AAP process without any oversight because there is no clear criteria and so then it's not subject to whims of a handful of administrators.  If you set clear, objective criteria, then it puts power into the hands of parents and students.  If you set confusing and subjective criteria (e.g., a holistic approach), then it puts power into the hands of bureaucrats.

You can think of a test only approach as being akin to capitalism.  Sure, it has its flaws (e.g., people prepping kids who have no business being in AAP) but it's better than any alternative.[/quote]
DP.  I disagree with a test only approach, but I also disagree with the way FCPS is implementing their holistic evaluation.  Kids can have bad days or have abilities that are not properly reflected in the scores.  A real holistic approach means that they're considering everything, but still doing so in light of some objective standard.  In many school systems, the holistic approach means that CogAT/NNAT, iready/achievement scores, and teacher rating would all be considered, and any kid exceeding a numerical threshold in 2 or 3 out of the 3 would be in or kids above a certain total point level on the three items combined would be in.  Many also have an opportunity for kids who fall a little short of that to submit a portfolio and perhaps be accepted on the strength of that.

FCPS instead uses a system where if a panel of people "feel" like the kid should be in or out of AAP, then that's what happens.  It's why some kids have high test scores, above grade level iready, and high teacher ratings, but still get rejected, while some other kids with none of those get admitted.  [/quote]

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