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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have a sincere question about posts like these every time I see them.

The people making RTO decisions are also humans.  They have families and commutes and also enjoyed the benefits of remote work.  The vast majority of them are not uber-wealthy Bezos/Musks.  Many of them are even staff level HR/budget/external affairs professionals.  We see these people every day in the workplace and know them.

They are making these calls for a reason.  They may be wrong, but they are not EVIL.

All of us would have better outcomes if we remembered that, and were willing to hear people out in good faith and maybe influence each other.  Calling names on other sides is both wrong and also unhelpful.   [/quote]

[b]They do it out of a sense of self preservation, and don't care about the costs to you.[/b]

If you are a CEO making big bucks, and there is even a chance, even a tiny one, that making everyone sit in the office could improcce something, somewhere, that may make a difference in your annual bonus, so it's back to the salt mines.
Also, what people have said about it being hard to monitor remote, and large expensive leases that must be justified.

[b]The CEO doesn't care if you have to get up earlier, pay for gas, waste hours in traffic - all of the negatives don't impact him. [/b] Employee happiness isn't necessarily measurable on the balance sheet, and how many CEOs are really paying attention to reasons for turnover?  How many CEOs do you think pick the health care plan based on what most EEs want as opposed to, "well my wife likes to visit the dermatologist" or whatever.

They are not EVIL, they are just self interested.  To a degree that can be short sighted.[/quote]

[b]All of the costs and negative impacts to workers are also experienced by upper management.[/b]  Also, even assuming that management is solely focused on increasing their annual bonus and doesn't care at all about people, attrition and turnover affects that bonus.[/quote]

NP and LOL at this.  As just one example among many:

"Meanwhile, Chief Financial Officer Brian West, who joined Boeing in August 2021, hasn’t relocated from his home in New Canaan, Conn. [b]The company recently opened a small office about five minutes from his house.[/b]"

"Managers eager to get employees back to the Arlington office over the past two years have turned to happy hours, guest speakers and even visiting alpacas, say people who have worked there. [b]Calhoun and West are seldom spotted in the building, they say.[/b]"[/quote]

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