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I know, OP! It's infuriating, because as long as admissions are "holistic", there will be cheating and fraud.

It's much harder to cheat on a standardized test than it is to casually invent a bunch of extra-curriculars.

University admissions need to be entirely academic and standardized.[/quote]

This is a cop out trying to justify eliminating  holistic because there are cheaters. There are also people who are incredibly enriched that are benefitted in testing. Kids also cheat at school. I see no one calling to ban grades. Student accomplishments are important indicators of what they may bring to campus. The real message here should be don't try to cheat your way in. [/quote]

Everyone wants to ban grades. My school is the only school without super inflated grades. [/quote]

How about we emphasize integrity rather than normalize cheating. [/quote]

And AOs need to realize that the kids with the most integrity are often the quiet kids. Not the ones making the most noise and the so-called class leaders. [/quote]

How can you substantiate that? The co-presidents of my oldest DC's HS class were beyond reproach, truly so.[/quote]

Are you asking how in an application can you show integrity? I don’t know. Teacher recommendations are insufficient because teachers often like the leaders who lack integrity.  It’s a good question. I think it’s very very hard to nail down personal qualities with any accuracy. [/quote]

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