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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sorry, but it doesn’t matter. It matters to the the overbearing helicopter parent that wear their kid’s college brand like a designer handbag and that we will be directionless and aimless when DC leaves the nest. But for your kid, their employer will care that they went to school but not where. The exception, of course, is on both extremes. If they go to a top 5-7 school, great, they get bonus points (except for the many employers that specifically don’t want someone with those credentials because they tend to believe that they are entitled to an accelerated journey). On the other extreme, if they went to an online school or a super esoteric school, there better be a good reason. Other than that, schools #7-150 or so are completely interchangeable in the real world. [/quote] I'm sorry but I just don't agree that this applies to everyone. The assumption that wealth & eduction correlates with Middle class white culture is so off-putting. I'm asian and a child of immigrants- I've seen way too many successful lives destroyed by events that would never be life 'destroyers' for their white peers b/c of a lack of exposure to ideas/UMC ways of doing things and confidence. The difference that going to a top ten law school would make for my kid even though their parents are lawyers will be much much bigger than it is for your kids and there are plenty of immigrants, brown and black people and even first generation college grad white posters here and we know better than you how social mobility works b/c its something we have experienced for ourselves, not just read about in the Atlantic and VOX. I've seen first hand the difference in girls who go to George mason vs. even UVA/George Washington and what they've gone on to do with their lives. Exposure to a wider set of possibilities and the self concept that you are one of the ppl who should be applying to post docs at Magdalen college and MS at LSE and opening businesses with friends you met at NYU Beijing are vastly different than a fed contractor driving to target and their home in Burke with no USAID/FSO posting in sight day after miserable day. Many ppl on here have benefited from their superior merit and work ethic and want make sure that their kids move that one rung up to having even more choices and possibilities when their grandparents struggled and sacrificed. That is what ppl move here for, if I wanted to keep treading water, my father should've stayed home and not left his family and everyone he held dear. [/quote] Again, I don't care. The American university system should not be structured to make the lives of "immigrants, brown and black people" better. [b]Everyone should get the exact same opportunity based on their academic merit not their skin color or recent arrival in the country[/b].[/quote] And here I thought it didn’t matter which college the kids went to.. /s[/quote] And that is the point. The PP thinks school rank does matter, but once you understand that it doesn't, then you realize that everyone does have the same academic opportunity. There is room at the U.S colleges for everyone who wants to attend. How well or poorly you do there is on you and that is what will show when you go to get a job. What PP is actually talking about is socioeconomic, not academic. And yes, it is true that exposure to social classes above your own can be a vehicle to upward mobility -- but you can get that at a lot more colleges than the top 25, and it can happen for the C student as much as the A student. Here's another truth people don't always appreciate: the more academic and high achieving you are, the more likely leadership will keep you in a producer position, because they need the best in that role. Ironically, that means economic upward mobility can be stifled by high academic achievement in many, if not most, cases outside of the professions like law and medicine. Also, the non-professional careers that make big money, don't really require academic achievement (e.g., some high earning sales positions). Similarly the real opportunity often comes to the risk takers who are willing to fail 10 times before they make it big (and again, academic achievement -- not intelligence-- is often low in that risk taker crowd). It's all about so much more than the things people obsess over on here.[/quote] I read all this and my take away is that medical careers are best for immigrant kids because that is where networking might matter least. [/quote]
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