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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s a troll, there’s no teacher in the world like this. [/quote] Unfortunately, if you've been following the school forums, there's been a string of threads addressing students with special needs where current and former teachers have displayed incredible ignorance and intolerance towards kids with disabilities. This can't be an experienced kindergarten teacher, but it could be an older elementary teacher that recently switched to K. And if her colleagues knew she wasn't able to deal with kids with disabilities, they may have given her classes without kids with IEPs. That doesn't work for kindergarten, though, because a lot of kids won't get IEPs until after school starts.[/quote] She is perplexed and frustrated, it's a normal reaction, especially since the parents are non communicative and uninvolved. The special needs forum is full of parents who say I can't do this for the rest of my life, but here we are going to bash K teachers for trying to ameliorate a tough situation while also wrangling 12-15 other 5 year olds.[/quote] I’m the person that thinks this is a troll. I have a kid with profound special needs that wears a diaper at age 14, has no communication and is in a self contained class. I don’t believe any actual long time teacher would be “perplexed”. Frustrated — sure. Trying to push to get this kid the services they need, which might not be in her class — sure. But this big eyed “how on earth does this ever happen” is troll level nonsense. And to the other poster, sure there are some teachers that act pretty jerky about special needs kids. But I still call troll on this one.[/quote] I DON”T because I’m gonna bet your kid came in to K with an IEP. In that case, this is fine. The OP is talking about a kid who has no identified needs, no IEP and is NOT potty trained. IF the issue is profound disability, that kid should already have an IEP. If a kid walks off the street in K, they are expected to be toilet trained and it will take at least 4-6 months to get that kid the services he/she needs. She is asking HOW THIS HAPPENS because the parents never flagged toilet training issue. They never sought services and just started their kid. PSA- if you are a parent and your kid isn’t toilet trained by K, get your kid to child find and get services. [/quote] Unless you're trying to get into PEP, and there are a lot of reasons you wouldn't, there isn't much of a reason to go through through Child Find. And even if you worked with Infants and Toddlers earlier, kids age out of that before kindergarten. So if you don't transition to PEP, you have to start the process all over again. You can go through DESC over the summer before kindergarten starts, but MCPS doesn't make it easy to figure out what you need to do for that.[/quote] Yes, if a kid isn’t potty trained and went through infants and toddlers, parents should contact the school before school begins and request a meeting with child find about potty training. Not being potty trained by 5 is atypical and parents should know that it is expected by Kindergarten when your kid starts Kindergarten . To NOT contact anyone is to hurt your child not to mention take time away from the other children in the class for potty training. Did the parents never mention this at well child visits? The Kindergarten manual for MCPS states (since you mentioned it) “have your child manage clothing and footwear, toys, and toilet needs.” It is an expectation for typical kids, so if your kid isn’t, talk to the doctor and call the school. Here is the website for MCPS child find https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/special-education/programs-Services/child-find#:~:text=Child%20Find%20provides%20free%20developmental,previously%20identified%20with%20a%20disability. If your kid needs help from March 27 to the start of K it says to contact the child’s school. [/quote] Yes, if you happen to know to look at that website, you can start the process early. But if you're focused on the public communications going to out to parents about kindergarten registration, you'll never know. And even if you think to ask your home school, they won't know, and depending on who you talk to, they might tell you that you need to wait until the school year begins. (And similarly, DESC doesn't know how kindergarten registration works if your child will be placed in the home school) I've been through this process a couple times. It was an absolute mess both times. I don't understand why MCPS isn't more motivated to encourage screenings and assessments before the school year begins. I suspect it is because they don't want to carry more staff over the summer months, but that would be very short-sighted.[/quote]
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