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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's possible the ELC for all schools are at schools where most of the students qualified for the CES lottery? I hope that's true. [/quote]

There are no such schools. It's only the top 15%. For most to qualify, it would be top 50%.

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Top 15% of who?  Just that school or of the county.  The school seems silly.  One schools top 15% could be vastly different than another.  [/quote]

They group schools by SES level (percentage of students receiving FARMs) and then take the top 15 percent of students from those groups and put them in a lottery for CES. Anyone who isn't in CES is guaranteed ELC at their home school. But there are also kids who were not in the CES lottery who are offered ELC, particularly in low-FARMs school where the lottery cutoff is very high (above 85th percentile nationally). So there are indeed schools where most students demonstrate a need for enrichment, even if most students are not in the CES lottery.[/quote]

DP. Just to give an example, my DC scored 93% in winter map-r, but located at a tier 2 school. From what I read, I believe that DC's score was deducted 12 percentage points (for being in a tier 2 school), so that became 81st percentile. Did not enter lottery and was not offered an ELC spot at local school.

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Which is why I don’t think MAP tests are a good measure of student ability. It is very random and just one data point. A perfectly capable student could have a bad day and bomb his test and not qualify for ELC or CES. 
My DC was entered into CES lottery based on his fall score back when we were online for almost a year. On his spring MAP, his score dropped. I wonder what his score would have been in winter but they never tested him. But he ended up getting the CES spot and did fine in the program. So i think a lot of kids who do not have that cut off score can still do well in ELC or even at CES.[/quote]

It's a very good test of knowledge - and 93%ile is very good. It's just that MCPS adjusts the percentiles downward for low-FARMs schools, which makes it harder to get into CES for equity's stake. But MCPS could require ES to offer ELC to all who score at or above 85th percentile nationally. Right now, they are leaving it up to principal's choice, which is unfair. [/quote]

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