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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are you against the Center?[/quote]

I’m not the OP, but I really wish we didn’t have to choose the center to get a non cluster model. The bus ride is nearly an hour, it feeds into a different high school than his base (so friends won’t stick around), and he doesn’t get to know the neighborhood kids (we moved here in 3rd grade)[/quote]

I think you're confused about what is and is not clustering. LLIV programs have ALWAYS been a mix of LLIV and principal placed LIII children. That's NOT clustering, it's just filling the classroom. Clustering is when a school doesn't have an LLIV classroom at all but separates out kids for advanced math.[/quote]

Wait, what? So clustering means...no LLIV for any subject but math (pull outs)? Or is it there some attempt at differentiation within the classroom for other subjects? Or does the meaning of clustering depend on the school?

Also, just curious if anyone knows how long clustering has been a thing in FCPS? Sounds like it's happening more with the increase in LLIV programs but has it always been done?[/quote]

I think the newer programs (within the last couple of years) started doing the cluster model. Then a few schools changed to it as well that had established programs. There are still schools with 1 Local Level 4 class per grade. Kids who are not Level 4 are principal placed. [/quote]

Clustering sounds like a good way to ignore the AAP kids since I don't expect a teacher to be able to consistently make 2-3 different lessons plans daily. Yay, equity![/quote]

AAP teacher here. If my school ever moved to clustering, I would leave. [/quote]
You are the reason AAP students have the attitude they have. You think you're too good for the general population? What a terrible teacher.[/quote]

This is an unhinged response. [/quote]
NP but AAP teachers have the sweetest deals. They have the best, most eager to learn kids, and a curriculum already built for them. She doesn't want to deal with the disruptive kids in gen ed.[/quote]

I have had disruptive kids in AAP. As a whole, AAP kids have better work habits and want to learn, yes. That doesn’t mean we don’t have other issues. My AAP kids are waaay more sensitive to not doing well and the productive struggle. I have had way more crying in AAP than Gen Ed classes.

As for the curriculum- some of it is already built, but a lot needs to be adapted. The pacing guides for ALL subjects Gen Ed and AAP are messy and not user friendly. They give suggestion on lessons, but it is up to teacher to pick/choose what works best for their class. AAP has moved to a concept based instruction but our schedules don’t really always work to implement it the way they envision. They also don’t always stay paced with the Gen Ed curriculum. I much preferred the old pacing guides for each unit of study. [/quote]

I appreciate this teacher response and the previous one. I wish there was more reality injected into these threads like this (so much for the idea "It's all the same curriculum; your kid will be fine").

I'm really curious about the teachers' comment re: productive struggle. I don't know if you have any specific examples, but just wondering if the sensitivity could be due to being in over their head or is it more about not liking to be wrong? I would be concerned about my child being in an environment where everyone feels the need to be the best and right all the time. I don't want to nurture that sort of thing. [/quote]

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