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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the record, 10% of kids at Eliot Hine are testing proficient in math. [url]https://profiles.dcps.dc.gov/Eliot-Hine+Middle+School[/url] The My School profiles have what might charitably be called a glitch where they mark sections as “n < 10” when what they mean is “data suppressed.” If you add the students scoring 1-3 on the My School profile, you will see they do not sum to 100%. [/quote] Are you saying that it's not actually less than 10 kids? So like they might have had 15 kids scoring a 4, but chose to suppress the data anyway? Those percentages are percentages of kids who took the PARCC test. Anyone who took the MSAA, or who sat out the PARCC for whatever reason, wouldn't be included. So it's 10% of the kids who took the PARCC, which is smaller than the total reported population of 317. [/quote] Yes. Just compare the DCPS profile to the My School profile. The percent of students scoring 1, 2, and 3 are the same, and they sum to 90%. If 90% of test takers scored 1, 2, or 3, as My School reports, what percent scored 4 or 5? The answer is 10%. I believe what happened here is that less than 10 students scored 5s, but more than 10 scored 4. If OSSE reported the number of 4s, a person like me could easily compute the exact number of students scoring 5. Which would raise privacy concerns. So they suppress the exact number of students scoring 4. [/quote] I see. Thank you for your input. But still, 10% of the population cannot be more than 30 kids total, right? Because out of 317 kids, some take MSAA. And if those 30 kids are divided across 6th, 7th, and 8th, you've got 10 kids on or above grade level in each academic year. So that's still pretty terrible performance for a school that claims to offer IB curriculum and on- and above-grade-level content. [/quote] I’m not going to say 10% proficient is great, no. But there’s a pretty big difference between a school that doesn’t work for anyone and a school that works for some kids, albeit fewer than we’d like. The second kind of school has something to build on. And the difference between 0% and 10% may be particularly relevant in light of a point made on the last page, that Eliot-Hine is 10% white. A DC school where most of the white kids don’t test proficient is indeed underperforming, as that poster was arguing. Instead it looks like Eliot-Hine may be something all too familiar in DC: yet another school where demographics are destiny. [/quote] Well, I think Eliot-Hine had a bad year last year and is a little better this year. They had 15.9 percent proficient on the math PARCC, which is bad but not terrible relative to demographics. But still-- it's really hard to believe DCPS is effectively delivering on-grade and advanced coursework in light of these scores. I'm not someone who thinks the PARCC test is that great, or that testing can be taken at face value. But they have to give us feeder parents *some* evidence that the IB curriculum is being implemented with fidelity (as the saying goes), and that there is actually on-grade-level stuff happening in the classroom. Saying "Take our word for it until your child attends, despite our godawful test scores" is just not good enough. And that's why people don't enroll.[/quote]
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