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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]5th grade is ideal if child has proper math education prior to then.   But the will require parent participation to accomplish. [/quote]

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Why by 5th grade the kid has solid abstract thinking skills and can easily work to manipulate equations and solve for x.  Math is really just a different language and we all know the earlier you start with a language the easier it is.

It is why the rest of the world speaks English and are way ahead of American students in math.

Laugh if you want but it the reality of the situation, just look at where the US ranks worldwide in math. [/quote]

The biggest problem with US math scores at 15 (when the PISA test is taken) is that it occurs when we do the dumbest thing-- we have the "geometry sandwich" between Algebra 1 and Algebra 2.  Most sensible countries do a more integrative approach so they are not teaching algebra and then -- hold on you need to know geometry for the next part so let's take a whole year doing just that and then --gee, I hope you remember your Algebra for Algebra 2.  So much time is wasted doing it this way-and many educators know it, but any attempt to have more integrative math is thought of by parents as "dumbing down"  so the status quo persists.  [/quote]

Because it is frequently combined with a dumbing down approach of eliminating tracking and pushing algebra 1 to 8th grade.  By calling it integrated math 1,2,3, parents won't realize that the classes have been dumbed down.  See VMPI. My school district considered this switch decades ago.  They would not have dumbed anything down, but they decided against adopting this because it would be hard to handle people who moved.[/quote]

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