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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even putting $1000 on a credit card at 20%/yr s a better deal than any year of college. Financial aid for lower middle class isn't that generous. The real risk is the wasted money from all the kids who will fail the AP tests. MoCo already has a 25% failure rate, sure to increase when tests are free. [/quote] This is what happens when you let anyone sign up for AP classes. Students should have a proven track record of academic success in previous honors courses prior to being allowed in AP classes.[/quote] Don't even need that. Just need to give legit quarterly exams to show progress and qualify for AP exam. Nothing wrong with exposing whoever wants to the material, so long as they aren't disruptive. [/quote] When the teacher has to slow down the class because there are students in it who don't belong, it affects everyone. [/quote] No one "has to" slow down. That's a bad teacher who needs to do their job properly. [/quote] This is my neighbor’s biggest issue with teaching AP classes. She has students in some of her classes who cannot do the work because they read below grade level and have frequent absences. Because of the public school district’s obsession with equity, those students are allowed to sign up for her classes. She’s required to accommodate them which slows down the students who are prepared for the class. [/quote] What happened when she tried to not accommodate them? [/quote] She had to hence the slower pace of the class. This happens a lot when the class is open enrollment. The district can brag about how many kids are taking AP classes but look at the pass rates. They’ve gone down. Not exactly a surprise. [/quote] Why did she "had to"? Did parents complain? Admin mandates something? What? What were the accomodations? There is no definition of "accomodation" that includes "not teaching the material". When teachers try that, because it's the easiest solution for them, parents sue. What were the accommodations? Overall pass rates due to unqualified students are not relevant to the question of how the class is taught and the pass rates of qualified students. I'm looking for facts, not speculation. [/quote] The fact is the pass rates for AP courses have gone down. Why? When you let unprepared students take the class, the teacher is required to meet their needs. How well do you think a kid who reads below grade level and misses class frequently will do? Teachers don’t get to write this students off. We are required to contact parents over failing grades which takes time away from grading and planning. Our admin pushes hard for passing grades so we have to have extra sessions before/after school for these failing students. My planning time is often taken up covering for classes with no sub so my prep time is after school. I shouldn’t be expected to use that time tutoring students who don’t belong in the class in the first place. These are no required courses. They are college level equivalent courses yet we are expected to make sure students who are below grade level pass them even if they don’t do the work. That’s what your tax dollars pay for. If I didn’t have a kid going to college next year, I would’ve quit years ago. This is not the MCPS it used to be. [/quote]
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