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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]More schools will be doing this because it is a relatively cosmetic change and good PR; it barely moves the needle. Athletes have a far greater impact: what about admission preferences for Wesleyan’s 900 or so athletes, the vast majority of whom are white? Reserve plaudits until Wesleyan, Amherst and their brethren do something about the real issue. This is a mere distraction from more fundamental change, so don’t fall for it.[/quote]

What the heck? Where are you getting 900 recruited athletes at Wes? That’s nearly a third of the student body. I went to Wes and hardly knew any serious athletes. I serious doubt thirty percent of the student body is recruited athletes with admissions preference.

I do agree with doing away with athletic recruitment however.[/quote]
You are right. It is closer to 25%. So almost 800. It is irrelevant whether you thought they were serious athletes: they have a huge fist pressed down on the admissions scale — and legacy was but a pinky.[/quote]

Where are you getting these stats from? Just because a kid is an athlete doesn’t mean he was recruited and given admissions preference.[/quote]

Apparently,  you don't know the hook a [b]recruited athlete [/b]has in college admissions regardless of division,  and especially for the selective Division 3 colleges like Wesleyan.

We're not merely talking about Johnny or Sally playing a high school sport as an extracurricular activity.[/quote]

Yes, I do understand that recruited athletes have a huge leg up I college admissions. What I’m challenging is your assertion that 800 Wes students are RECRUITED athletes. I seriously doubt that. You haven’t provided any evidence for that.

It’s possible that 800 of the students might say they play a sport, but that doesn’t mean that they were all recruited in the admissions sense. [/quote]

NP: is recruited athlete the same as varsity athletes? According to this link 25% of the students at Wesleyan are varsity athletes.

https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2023/4/1/college-athletic-recruiting-for-wesleyan[/quote]

PP again: according to an 2017 article 10% of each incoming class is recruited athletes: approximately 330 of the student body.

https://slate.com/culture/2017/12/wesleyan-university-football-is-good-business.html[/quote]
Gosh. None of you can read. That article says 10% “tips” — students who are way, way below and have no business setting foot in the school. Admission preferences for athletes is a much, much larger category. Coaches have several lists. The athletes who “might be able to get in on their own” still get pre-reads and a huge admissions preference. Surprised by the ignorance on this thread. Maybe it’s a Wesleyan thing. All NESCAC schools are the same — roughly same number of athletes, same teams, same recruitment. If Wesleyan is 25% athletes, probably 20% get an admissions preference of some sort. Wesleyan does not provide this data because it is embarrassing to them. Amherst has been more transparent about this if you really need to confirm that, yes, the vast majority of athletes in NESCAC schools get admissions preferences….[/quote]

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