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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think there is a lot of conflation with red pill and incel mentality as well. We have had a lot of discussion about that. DS hates the incel mentality. 
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Incel is a subset of red pill. What they have in common is a belief that the socially acceptable descriptions of what women want in a man are fundamentally dishonest or misleading. They divide over what to do with that "truth." Pickup artists, incels, men going their own way, mens right's activists, proud boys and the rest of them all have different (sometimes overlapping) approaches, but none of them involve healthy relationships with women. [/quote]

The incel (/ˈɪnsɛl/ IN-sel, a portmanteau of "involuntary celibate") subculture is an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. These are both men and women.[/quote]

Ie it is not a subset of red pill and incel would not applied to OP boyfriend. [/quote]

It absolutely is a subset of the redpill culture. The primary group of incels as we’re familiar with them today blame their celibacy on what they regard as the unfortunate “truth” about women’s sexuality (e.g. women wanting “alpha” males).

The term “incel” seems to have started with a woman who started a fairly wholesome online support group for people, men and women, frustrated in love. But that’s  not at all the common usage of the word today. [/quote]

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