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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In order for a European model to work here, we would need federal not local control of schools and their standards, beginning at kindergarten. That will not happen in the US - our model is too States-centric for that. In Europe, national not local standards prevail. It’s akin to the social compact in many European countries regarding pensions and health care - they “work” (although Americans who are used to private health insurance would possibly not like the standards of care) because certain truisms are at play: everyone is employed, and works until age 65. You have to start at the ground up, not layer on top. [/quote] [b]You cannot just lump all of Europe together. Each has its own different way of doing things. Yes in education just like in health insurance. It just leads to statements that are wrong and misleading. [/quote][/b] But still the European model spits out kids into trade schools at elementary school,, middle school, and high school. They go into viable trades and learn lucrative livings. Only the elite are left for Oxbirdge, U of Dublin, etc. I don't think our system of pushing ill-prepared, depressed and unhappy kids into expensive SLACs is in any ways superior.[/quote] [b]Poor, unprepared students are not attending LACs or SLACs.[/quote][/b] OMG do you not read the college forums? Failure to thrive? Kids not leaving their dorm at college? Poor grades? Drugs, sex, and other issues? The stuff of entitlement that libs want to claim? We've created an entire class of BA grads who do not know what to do with themselves after they graduate because they should have never been in college in the first place. My DS and DD know at least seven of them from college! pick up a copy of college confidential and read! our nation wasn't sending 90% of its graduates to college 40 years ao. What happened?[/quote] You need a college degree to work as a receptionist or any job that puts food on the table. And before you bring up “but the trades…” historically trades unions have exclusively accepted Irish Catholic men. I could certainly see why a woman wouldn’t want to work in an all-male environment. [/quote]
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