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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Go to Harvard instead.[/quote]

Harvard has finals clubs, same thing.[/quote]

Quite different but okay.[/quote]

Social club with a rush like process were members take meals and throw parties.  Seems pretty similar, except some of the clubs at Harvard remain single sex.[/quote]

Quite different but not getting into it.[/quote]

DP who attended both Harvard and Princeton.  I see two main differences, only one of which would favor Harvard if you were concerned about these clubs.

First, finals clubs aren't quite as big a part of the Harvard social scene as the eating clubs, so they are easier to avoid if you don't want to be part of that scene.  But, second, there are no non-exclusive eating clubs.  If you want to be part of that scene, that's the only game in town.  And the finals clubs seemed significantly more pretentious than the eating clubs, even including the bicker clubs.  [/quote]

Did you mean that there are no non-exclusive finals clubs (at Harvard)?  I always thought they were smaller and more secretive than the Princeton eating clubs - like taking the membership at Ivy Club, splitting it into five smaller clubs, and then acting as if membership in each club was a closely held secret.  Or maybe I’m conflating the finals clubs at Harvard with the “secret societies” at Yale.  It’s hard to keep these WASPy traditions apart.

Some of the eating clubs at Princeton are open to all juniors and seniors, subject only to membership limits based on capacity.  And there are other games in town - you can remain a member in your residential college or you can cook for yourself if you end up living in one of the dorms with kitchens or in an off-campus co-op.  [/quote]

Yes, there are no non-exclusive finals clubs at Harvard, unlike Princeton where more than half of the clubs are non-exclusive and anyone can sign up.  [/quote]

When I was at P there were 5 selective clubs and 8 sign-in clubs and the selective clubs were still really white and some super WASPy like Cottage and Cap. Now there are 6 selective clubs and only 5 sign-in clubs, and the clubs are a lot more racially diverse.  I think the memberships are larger and that more kids stay in their residential colleges all four years, but it’s weird how Bicker seems to survive and adapt. Still find it the least appealing thing about the school that they select a student body presumably for their diverse backgrounds and talents, and then look away as the students self-segregate into their tribes. [/quote]

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