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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Paris is voting Sunday on whether to ban scooters. People are sick of them — they ride too fast, they go on the sidewalks, they leave their scooters everywhere. Copenhagen, Helsinki have imposed new restrictions. London wants to require people to get licenses. I would love it if DC banned them outright. They are a menace. [/quote]

While we’re at it, let’s ban cars too. They are a menace that kill tens of thousands of the living population and are making the planet unlivable for everyone that comes after.[/quote]

I was just in Manhattan for a week and walked everywhere. Not once did I fear for my life from a car, but the scooters and bikes in the bike lanes were a menace. No one obeyed the lights so stepping off the curb into the bike lane to cross the street was terrifying, and not only right after the light changed. My son narrowly missed getting hit very hard by a scooter, and I had two close calls with bikes that would have ended badly because they were going so fast. I would much rather walk amongst cars where the behavior of the drivers is more predictable and most follow the lights. It was the opposite for the bikes and scooters. [/quote]

Cool story, bro. But it’s better that hard data guides public policy and not your feelings. And there isn’t a lot of hard data that shows that scooters or cyclists come anywhere near to representing the threat that cars and other motor vehicles pose to the safety of the general public.[/quote]

Hard data you say?  Where is the hard data on the number of bicycles and scooters in active use?  On a proportional basis I would not be surprised if bike/scooter accidents were higher than cars etc.  Just using that previously cited hard data on accident fault and bicycles are the most dangerous of all proportionately.[/quote]

Try a bit harder to understand the meaning of “safety of the general public”.[/quote]

The hard data says that bicycles and scooters are the most dangerous (at fault fatalities per trip).[/quote]

They injure their riders. Not the general public. This shouldn't be that hard.

Bikes and scooters also generate almost no carbon emissions, take up minimal public space, are very quiet, and generally produce far fewer negative externalities than motor vehicles.[/quote]

Read the New York Times story. Paris banned scooters because they are so dangerous. One knocked a newborn out of a mother’s arms.[/quote]

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