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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Let's compare Big10 Conference schools Cost of Attendance, Salary upon graduation etc. https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/best-schools/big-ten-conference/#:~:text=The%20average%20undergraduate%20tuition%20%26%20fees,the%20academic%20year%202022%2D2023.[/quote] PP here: a further look at room and board should be considered with each of these. [/quote] +1 I just did the abbreviated NPC for UIUC this week and for an in-state kid, Grainger Engineering, the full cost was $40k, no financial aid for a middle class family of 3.[/quote] So if you have not been able to save enough, there is NIU that has engineering/CS and tuition is almost 10K less. It's up to your family to decide which is better. There are options that are more affordable. [/quote] Which is dramatically less prestigious than UIUC. Nothing meritocratic about that paradigm whatsoever, but the facade of it is funny.[/quote] obviously UIUC is "more prestigious". If you deem that prestige worth the extra $10K (in loans or out of your pocket so that you are not saving that for retirement during the college years), then you are free to pay it. That is your choice. But you are making it seem like there are not affordable options for kids, and that is incorrect. They exist, you just want a "luxury" product that you cannot afford. Which is a bit silly, since for CS/Engineering, it does not really matter where you go for undergrad. If you maintain a good GPA and finish the degree, your kid will find a good job. So you can decide if spending that extra $10K per year is worth it or not. If it is, you can sign for parental loans and put your kid thru UIUC. [/quote] The reality is that it is embarrassing for families to send their kids to Northern Illinois University or similar. I am NOT saying that feeling is valid, but it exists. It’s hard to show up for college t-shirt day on 5/1 wearing a shirt of a college that “dumb” kids go to. Again I’m just stating what my students have told me over the years. I’m not really sure how to change these perceptions.[/quote] So you will let "perceptions" put you and your kid into major debt? That seems quite silly. Do you also buy luxury cars when you can only afford a Kia, just because you are afraid of perceptions? I'm genuinely curious The way to start changing it is for people to do what's best for them, and stop going into massive debt for college when there are other choices. Because ultimately, a smart kid would shine at NIU, graduate debt free and possibly get merit so have more money for getting started or grad degree. Engineers are engineering, if they finish the program anywhere they will get a good job, especially if they are smart and motivated (and if they gain admission to UIUC they likely are). [/quote]
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