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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To me elite means if you want, you can get a your foot in the door in almost any career without too much difficulty based on the reputability of the degree/strength of the alumni base (and of course with some relevant skills on the kid’s behalf). I would say

Group 1: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Princeton

Group 2: Yale, Duke, UPenn, Columbia, Caltech

Group 3: Dartmouth, Brown, Northwestern, UChicago, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Pomona

Group 4: Georgetown, WashU, Notre Dame, etc…

Anything in the top 3 groups is probably fair to consider “universally elite” if one wants to be safe. Some may not know the LACs as well though so beware of that[/quote]

What kind of ridiculous logic does it take to 1) tier elite colleges and then 2) decide yale is somehow in a second tier?  Where is you logic, your metrics, your analytics?  Oh, you don't have any and you pulled this right out of your a$$?  Ok, makes sense now.

The whole thing makes NO sense and you should stop.  [/quote]

It’s fair to put Yale a tier lower honestly. The tier 1 schools excel across the board whereas Yale has been lacking in STEM for decades. Yale STEM is not bad by any means of course but not the best of the best like the rest of tier 1. This is also reflected by the fact that the tier 1 schools (HPSM) don’t have to offer any scholarships or special programs to recruit students. All of the tier 2 schools (including Yale) have special scholarship programs.[/quote]

Harvard does not excel in STEM as well and thus the decline for the past decade or so. The decline may accelerate if the near future due to increasing importance of technology and STEM in general. I know someone who received both BS and MS in CS from Harvard and is working for Capitol One...[/quote]

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