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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm on the .5 dose of wegovy.  I would describe it as enough appetite suppression that its easier to make good choices.  Kind of like it takes the edge of my hunger and mental obsession over food but its still there.  But if I wasn't motivated to loose weight and make good choices I could easily see no change.  I've lost about 6-7 pounds in 7 weeks which I'm happy about.  [/quote]

Exactly. You can't continue to eat crap and wonder why you can't lose weight even while on a drug.

Look at the people who get surgery and still gain the weight back. When will people take responsibility for their choices?[/quote]

You sound pleasant [/quote]

There are people who are enraged that drugs exist to help people lose weight. It’s weird. Actually it’s psychotic.[/quote]

Nope. I am cool with drugs existing to help people, but still believe people need to also put in some effort and accept that they do in fact have some control vs believing it is all out of their control and only a medication will save them. Medication should be used in combination with lifestyle changes and therapy.  look at all the people who have gastric bypass and still gain weigh back because they go back to overeating/never solve the real problem.    [/quote]

[b]You don’t get to have opinions about what other people should do.[/b] You worry about you.

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DP. People can have opinions about whatever they want, including the temporary, unsustainable fixes people do.

Yes the truth is hard, but weightloss meds aren't going to fix a weight problem in the long term. Because things that are sustainable are hard, and you have to do the hard work - including the mental hard work.
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I don’t. know why I’m bothering, but. Let me try:

If you know an overweight person who has lost weight before without Ozempic, you can be assured they know about doing the work. I am able to control my diet. I’ve done it to lose weight, I’ve done it to control GD, I’ve done it. It takes nearly all of my capacity. There’s a buzzing in my head that drives me bonkers. I have to think of almost nothing else and live like a monk. Ozempic has silenced that buzzing. I still get hungry, of course. But I also get full in a way I’ve never experienced before. My relationship to food is peaceful. I can plan a healthy diet and execute it while going about my normal life and being a good parent, partner, and worker.

This experience has really changed the way I see the whole issue. I wouldn’t tell a person with depression that they just need to think positive. That doesn’t mean depression should only be treated with meds and not therapy, cbd, whatever. I don’t tell alcoholics that they should be able to have one drink and then stop even though I can easily do that myself. This is not an either medication or hard work situation. I can’t know how other people feel, so I don’t know if I had some deficiency or whatever and Ozempic is correcting for that. But it feels like suddenly all of the advice about eating healthy and moderation is attainable for me in a way it never was before. [/quote]

Yes, losing weight the natural way is hard (I've been there, done it, and maintained it), but digging and getting to the crux of why someone's overeating takes deep mental work. I'm not against medication for depression but I AM against it without trying other things first - doing therapy, getting hard exercise, digging deep, and peeling away at the issues beneath.

Losing weight and keeping it off is about WAY more than just controlling your diet. That's the superficial pathway. Taking meds as a solution without doing the deep mental work, is not going to be successful in the long run. It just isn't. And I don't say this because I wish you failure. 
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You have a naive, simplistic view of mental and physical health.  Excluding people like models, the people who are seeking appetite control medications are already at the point where they need to lose weight for health reasons. They shouldn't be made to do all this 'deep mental work' prior to being prescribed medication.  The 'work' can be done at the same time the medication is used so they can benefit from the weight loss while learning to implement a healthy lifestyle.

This is no different than someone being prescribed medication for depression.  By the time they're in a depression, it's extremely difficult for them to battle their way out using non-pharmacological means.  It is a best practice to treat the depression with medication while, at the same time, implementing the lifestyle changes needed to support good mental health.  For those who are pre-disposed to depression, good mental health habits sometimes just aren't enough and they develop depression in spite of their efforts.

Symptoms should be treated/managed/controlled until the root cause has been identified and attempts to remediate it.  Sometimes, the cause cannot be remediated without medication.[/quote]

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