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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You know that a Camry and RAV4 weigh the same, right?[/quote]

The Rav4 sits up higher and is thus more dangerous to pedestrians. Also, to the PP who said she bought an SUV for visibility -- thing about what you are trying to make visible. SUV's make it easier to see over things, but they REDUCE visibility around your vehicle. Even with back up cameras, sitting up higher in your vehicle means that you are less able to see small objects (and small people) close to your vehicle.

It feels good to be able to see farther, but what is the actual benefit of that? Wouldn't you rather be able to better see a bike, a child, a dog, a ball rolling into the street, from a safety perspective? You are buying an SUV so you can see over things, but what about the stuff your SUV keeps you from seeing?[/quote]

I have a 360 camera and crazy sensitive sensors. I’m LESS likely to hit something than my old sedan with poor visibility and no cameras/sensors. 
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But if you had a sedan with cameras and sensors...[/quote]

You still sit much lower in a sedan. Go test drive one and stop spouting off your ignorance. 
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I'm a NP, but did you read any of this thread-sure in your new SUV you feel safer, but if you had replaced your old sedan with a new sedan the road would be safer for everyone. So if you only care about yourself own it but don't call others who have [b]better values[/b] ignorant. Ignorant.[/quote]

Well I think my values are better since I'm in the business of protecting my family in case of collision. You ARE ignorant if you can't see that some people differing values that are not inferior to your pie in the sky ones.

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Are you not in the business of protecting your family when they are on sidewalks, crossing streets, playing in the yard or in a friends yard, etc.? Because I am in that business and that is why I hate SUVs.

Fun fact: if a driver loses control of their vehicle and runs into your family sitting on the outdoor patio of a coffee shop, you and your children are more likely to die if the vehicle is an SUV than if it is a sedan.

So when I rail against SUVs, I'm actually trying to protect you and your family, even though you don't give a flying f--k about me and mine. Have a good one! I hope you don't have to spend any time outside your SUV![/quote]

Well, I can get hit by a meteor just walking down the street too. I'll still take my chances since most collisions don't occur by drivers plowing people sitting in a coffee shop (statistics). Since I'm statistically more likely to be involved in a collision while in my vehicle, I feel pretty good about my choice. Your concern is touching albeit misguided. [/quote]

Statistics, huh? According to the IIHS, it's true that a greater proportion of passenger and driver deaths in multi-vehicle collisions were riding in cars. However, SUVs and pickups are more likely to get into single-vehicle crashes, and therefore account for more driver and passenger deaths in single-vehicle crashes.

Pedestrians deaths from vehicle account for about 17% of all vehicular deaths. That's about 1 in 6. So a little more likely than a meteor hitting you as you walk down the street.

You think you SUV is safer for you, but that's arguable and based more on your beliefs than on facts. It's definitely more dangerous for other people -- that's just fact.[/quote]

So 17% of deaths are pedestrians but I should still care more about that than a collision with another car? Bless your heart. [/quote]

Do you always just read the parts that support your point and ignore the parts that don't. Your SUV is more likely to tip over and kill the people inside, dummy.

Also, which SUV are you buying. In a multi-car collision, you are more likely to die if you are in the smaller vehicle. As someone upthread noted, the majority of car sales in the US are now SUVs. So are you going out and buying the largest possible SUV? If not, then your family is less safe -- your crossover isn't going to cut it when it gets hit by something larger. [b]PLUS it's more likely to kill pedestrians. PLUS its more likely to get into an accident all by itself.[/b][/quote]

All by itself, huh. OK, now I know you're off your rocker. As I have stated numerous time, my priority is my family. My SUV still stands a much better chance than your Prius in ANY collision. You drive whatever the hell you want,[b] teach your children to cross the street properly[/b] and don't worry about what the rest of us are doing. I promise you, it will make your life a whole lot happier. [/quote]

Wow victim blaming at its finest. Yep. its the kids crossing the streets fault. God you are despicable. [/quote]

Yeah, no child has EVER run into the street chasing after a ball. All drives (all SUV drivers) are just murderous animals. Yeah, I'm the despicable one.

Are you ok? Like you don't sounds mentally all there.[/quote]

Yes, children sometimes run into the street. They lack the practical experience or cognitive ability to know better. This is just how it is, there is no way to change this. Many kids are killed by vehicles because they get three steps ahead of their parents, or they suddenly pull their hand away and dash off because they are distracted or enticed by something. If you have had a young child, you know that you cannot perfectly control every movement they make.

One solution to this is to just not let children go places that there are cars. This is what a lot of people have started to do. Kids don't play in front yards. They definitely don't play in the streets. They don't play in parks unless the parks are gated off. And so on. One solution is to just cage up the kids so that they can never accidentally run into the street, which is something kids will do sometimes  because they are kids.

Another solution would be to change the way our lives are set up so that kids can be safer without having to be caged up. That means: lowering speed limits, eliminating traffic on more roads, widening sidewalks. It also means reducing the number of vehicles on the road that pose the gravest threat to children -- SUVs.

[b]The difference between you and me is that you think you can drive your SUV and expect small children to just adjust their behavior [/b]to accommodate it, whereas I think you, the adult, should adjust your behavior and choices to accommodate the inevitable behavior of small children so that they can be protected.[/quote]

So teaching your child basic road safety is somehow catering to my SUV loving lifestyle? Got it. You are INSANE! Whether you live here or in Europe children need to learn how to be safe outside/when crossing the street. YES THEY NEED TO KNOW that cars are going to be on the street and can kill them. In Europe the streets are a lot narrower and children routinely don't have the parks to play in they do here. Take your meds lady.
You keep trying to [/quote]

You cannot ensure all 3 year olds understand proper road safety. It is insane to expect that. We should make choices as a society that accept the idea that a small child who does not understand the consequences of running into a street.[/quote]

If you are not minding your 3 year old like a hawk, you are the problem. Not other people. He/She is your responsibility. Not mine. [/quote]

Mind your kids.

A 3 year old will even be squashed by a Prius. 
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