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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d encourage my kid to apply to their dream school, and apply RD to the pipeline school since lresumably there is still some advantage there if HYPS does not work out. [/quote]

College counselor was candid in saying this college cares a great deal about yield and all bets are off if applying RD.[/quote]

That’s Chicago for sure, they’re known to care the most about yield and take the overwhelming majority of its class from ED rounds. EA and RD are essentially a joke for them[/quote]

Can you blame them? Otherwise they’d have to compete with HYPSM, Caltech, Duke, UPenn, etc. for a lot of students. Their strategy saves them a lot of hassle.[/quote]

Yes I can blame them, it’s a [b]scummy strategy that hurts themselves more than anyone else. They’re supposed to compete for the best students, even if it means losing a lot of students. [/b]I mean look at Caltech, Duke, and Columbia. All top tier schools with slightly lower yield rates because they’ll admit the actual top students who are applying, even if they know several of them won’t enroll because they’ll have an offer from HPSM. So they end up losing a lot of students to HPSM in particular, but they don’t care because it’s better to have 2 out of those 10 tippy-top students (gold medalists, national champions, math prodigies, etc.) actually choose to enroll at your school than to not give them the chance to make a decision at all. Because of this, schools like Caltech, Duke, and Columbia have superstars in their student body who will set the tone for their class because they weren’t afraid to accept them and see them walk elsewhere.[/quote]

This is an interesting narrative, but how could you possibly know this? [/quote]

But come on.  Does it hurt Chicago that they took Kid A:  generic 1550/3.9 kid than Kid B: 1600/4.0/national champion?

Does kid B REALLY end up being a better college student, more successful adult and all-around lifetime ambassador for the University of Chicago than kid A?  
So having your sh$%t together 10% more as a 13-17 year old has lifetime implications?  Clearly Chicago has found that it does not.  
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NP So you think. say a nationally prestigious math award is %10 more? I certainly don't. [/quote]

Do you think it's worth less or more?

I would say less.  I think once you get past the "1500/3.9  +/- this or that extracurricular level of student" (actually probably a far lower cut-off than this) it's probably a total crap shoot as to how successful a kid becomes in life. 
Chicago knows this.  They know that Kid X who won this or that high school math award or had parents who helicoptered them into starting a non-profit is no more likely to be successful in life than those
who did not do these things.  So no need to fight over these kids.  [/quote]

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