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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We lived there briefly. It's very race and class divided. The race part is common to most cities but it's easy to forget certain cities are also very socio-economically segregated. You'll be pigeonholed into your niche pretty quickly. Nitty gritty is fun for a while then it becomes tiresome because the nitty gritty population is just too large. A lot of crap happens in Philadelphia that rarely happens in DC. Center City is wonderful and there are a few other gorgeous neighborhoods but much of the city is dreary and much of the new infill housing is shockingly ugly. [b]Transportation by car around the whole region is a nightmare, including the suburbs. [/b]

Philadelphia is still living off past glories and no number of modern new developments hides that it's one of the great 19th century cities still living in the shadows of its history. It's not where the energy or innovation is these days. Its claim to fame is being cheaper than NYC. But I will also say the dining scene is excellent, both high and low. It's perhaps the only thing I miss about Philadelphia.[/quote]

You can’t be serious. [/quote]

Because transportation by car around the DC area is so much better  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: [/quote]

We live in Baltimore after living in Philadelphia. It takes a lot longer to get around Philadelphia as the roads aren't as efficiently connected and some of the key links out of Center City are limited like the Schuylkill Expressway, which is backed up most of the time. Driving from Center City to the Main Line or back is time consuming because there is no direct expressway, just the train. Mount Airy and Chestnut Hill aren't easily connected outside trains either. By contrast, Baltimore is easy to navigate with the beltway and I-83 from the city to the northern suburbs. The world isn't just Philadelphia and DC, you know  :lol: [/quote]

THIS person cities. What do you think about safety in both cities, PP? [/quote]

Center City is safer than downtown Baltimore but it's also apples and oranges. Philadelphia's virtue is that it is large enough to have a critical population mass in Center City, making it a lively and, frankly, a special place that has no peer in Baltimore. On the other hand, Baltimore's waterfront neighborhoods like Canton and Fells Point and Federal Hill are about as safe as places like Queen Village and Northern Liberties in Philadelphia, and University City/West Philadelphia is comparable enough to Charles Village in safety. Roland Park = Chestnut Hill in terms of QOL and safety. And Baltimore has the harbor, which is what makes Baltimore special. Philadelphia only has ugly rivers.

Philadelphia has all the problems Baltimore does, on a bigger scale. Philadelphia has all the same demographics and drug problem and crime and murders. It's the bigger city so it has the bigger of everything, good and bad, which makes sense, and this includes more inconveniences. Neither are booming cities and when you've lived in cities that have genuine economic growth and dynamism, it's an entirely different proposition. One definitely sees it in the big city politics of the old cities, which is petty and driven by machines grouped around identities along with clueless progressives chanting defund the police while half the city is an urban wasteland dominated by rival gangs. 
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