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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tesla is the only viable EV at the moment. [/quote]

I love that you tried so hard to troll here and no one bit. Your life seems sad.[/quote]

You're a moron.

The infrastructure does not exist in the vast majority of the country for EVs.  Tesla by far in and away is so far ahead of everyone else in that department. Tesla has many more years experience making batteries than every other automaker. Many EVs lose tremendous amounts of range when challenged with heavier loads and cold weather. Tesla's range holds up the best. You can hate Elon all you want. The fact of the matter remains, that as of Jan 25 2023, Teslas are the only real viable EV on the market, primarily because of the charging infrastructure they've built up. You cannot take other brand EVs on longer hauls without significant problems for charging and/or time delays. [/quote]

We have two teslas and we live in a snowy climate (have already received 20 feet of snow this winter!). Our range holds up well, but I think it’s helped a lot by the fact that we are at a high altitude so there is less wind resistance. I read that Audis retain their charge in cold weather better than teslas. But as pp said, so far, tesla has the best network. Our neighbor has a beautiful rivian, and he said it’s frustrating that rivian’s network is being built so slowly. He won’t take his on out of town trips.

I know people still like hybrids or are turned off by Elon, or don’t want to bother with charging and would rather get a full tank of gas and be on their way. But the future is EV’s for personal vehicles. Norway has a goal of 100% of new car sales being EV’s by 2025, and they are already 80% of the way there. Eight out of ten new cars sold in Norway are 100% electric, not hybrid. China is over 20% for new ev sales and their charging network is maybe the best. 
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@50% of EV cars sold in the US last year were non-Teslas. Unlike Tesla, those cars are not beholden to a closed charging network. I know you think you are right. I know you feel certain. The 50% that are not Teslas (that number will grow by percentage and real number) will be fine whether or not your certainty thinks so. [/quote]

??  What do you mean “beholden”? Teslas can use any network other than rivian’s. And rivians can use any network other than Tesla’s. Hopefully that will change and all ev’s will be able to use Tesla’s and rivian’s network.

Btw, Tesla still has 60% of the market in EV’s, but hopefully that number will continue to drop as other manufacturers improve their products. The point is that only 5% of new cars sales in the us are 100% ev’s. As I said, it’s 80% in Norway. That isn’t good enough, but we have to drastically improve the charging network to entice more people to buy.

You seem to think I am a Tesla snob. If Honda had the same network and battery range, I would be driving that instead. It’s just the writing on the wall. Are you willing to take an etron on a 1000 mile road trip? It’s just easier and more reliable with the Tesla network. The goal is for everyone to have such a good and reliable network.[/quote]

You missed the point and the entire thread of the conversation...including the post you made! No one suggested Teslas don't have access to a charging network or that it is limited. You need to work on reading comprehension. What was said was in reply to you (I believe) suggesting that the closed Tesla charging network was the only one that was sufficient. The reply observed that with @50% of new EVs being non-Teslas and charging on non-closed infras, there was going to be a heft and quickly developing infra.

You are arguing against a position no one took![/quote]

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