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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am fine with that. College admissions needs a massive overhaul. [/quote]

Depending on what the Supreme Court says, one of the biggest changes will be elimination of any sort of “Women in STEM” outreach programs, preferences, or scholarships.

Be careful what you (ignorantly) wish for. [/quote]

Sure. Unless you are an Asian American woman. What this article fails to mention is that the whole college admissions process has been blatantly racist against Asians. Also since we are talking about women girls in general are disadvantaged under admissions to make way for more males that are less qualified. Again college admission here needs an overhaul. Many other countries rely on other meritocratic measures for competitive college admissions and I am all for that. [/quote]

LOL [b]how is the current college environment “racist” against Asians [/b]when they are already represented 2-3x in elite colleges relative to their share of population? Your criticism makes zero sense. Asians are doing f#cking awesome under the current system. [/quote]

Because they are being actively discriminated against when admissions is viewed from a merit point of view. They have higher test scores and GPAs and activities but are not getting in “due to personality”. You know this from the Harvard suit. It’s identical to when Harvard discriminated against Jews[/quote]

The SC can’t force GPAs and SAT scores to be the only requirements for admission. It’s going to be incredible to hear the triggered teeth gnashing in 5 years when Harvard’s demographic profile hasn’t budged [/quote]

You are obtuse if you allude to GPA and SAT scores. Harvard was using bogus personality scores. Well harvard can try and the lawsuits will keep coming. [/quote]

Guess what? Harvard will continue to use personality scores; they will just eliminate race and gender from the scoring criteria. And instead they will substitute things that are proxies for socioeconomic status: private vs. public school, zip code or voting precinct, wealth or education level of guardians, first generation, etc. The most elite schools will find ways to keep their student body diverse. [/quote]

The elite schools already *have* been trying to use all of those factors. That’s the point a lot of people are missing: schools already use a ton of targeted zip code data, socioeconomic numbers, and other race-neutral factors. If they could legitimately work as a way to get more racially diverse classes, then they would have been using them already instead of outright Affirmative Action. The issue from the perspective of the elite colleges is that those race neutral factors on their own simply are not enough to achieve the racial diversity that they want. People shouldn’t act as if though there are a lot of clear “backdoor” ways to achieve racial diversity (if that’s the goal) - they’ve tried them all and they just don’t work the way that the colleges want them to work. (Whether the way colleges want them to work is good thing or legal is an entirely different debate.)[/quote]

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