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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No.  I’ve been a personal trainer for 30 years.  Masters in Exercise Physiology.  No drug will ever work.  No fad diet will ever work. No shiny new exercise program will ever work.  Healthy, strong bodies are built through hard work and discipline.  People may lose for a few months or even years.  But it always comes back. Changing your body requires a complete lifestyle change.  Few people are willing to put in the effort. [/quote]

I realize you feel threatened for your livelihood but the empirical evidence suggests these drugs are highly effective.[/quote]

NP. Empirical evidence? Like the same [b]empirical evidence showing that oxycodone wasn't addictive[/b]. Lots of nerds believed that nonsense. Do you honestly think that taking a weight loss drug is going to improve the health of weight challenged individuals?[/quote]

You seem confused about the meaning of the term "evidence."  There was ample evidence pretty early on that Oxy was being diverted and that the anti-tampering measures were inadequate, but regulators ignored the evidence.  What happened with the Sacklers was corruption and massive regulatory failure.  It was not a problem of evidence.

You also seem confused about how pharmaceuticals and medicine in general work.  Semiglutide is a drug that's been improving the lives of people with diabetes since 2012.  It was authorized for obesity management in 2021, but the drug has a proven track record of helping people with diabetes pretty dramatically.

I get arguing that regulators can be corrupted and bribed to ignore evidence by drug companies, and that's a problem that needs to be addressed by strong oversight and regulatory reform -- something Americans are politically really bad at demanding.

But you're not making that argument; you seem just to be arguing that pharmaceuticals are bad, which is weird considering that humans now live on average more than twice as long as they did before modern pharmaceuticals began to be invented.
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Well said.

That was a very patient and thoughtful response. I would not have had that level of patience with that poster. [/quote]

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