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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You know, there are quotes and thoughts on this and I’ll try to find them.

If we all think we aren’t doing enough, getting therapy, throwing money at problems, and still behind, the problem is not US. It’s the SYSTEM.

We are caught in an antiquated post industrialist capitalist system that exploits workers. Of course we are not okay. [/quote]

It took four pages for someone to state the obvious. It is crazy to me that someone would lose their job for taking reasonable, earned,  time off. People are not machines. We don’t exist for the sole purpose of sustaining corporations. It is the responsibility of employers to build these kinds of delays into their projects, to hire enough workers to cover leaves and to make contingency plans. Other western countries are civilized enough to consider sick leave a basic human need. [/quote]

I'm a PP that told the OP she needs to get her shit together.

I'm a big proponent of systemic change and shifts to the (relatively far) left.  That's not the issue here.  OP isn't sleeping, is missing 40% of her work hours, napping on the floor of her office.  All while she has hundreds of hours of leave banked.  That's not a system issue - it's a her issue.  She needs to step back, assess what's wrong, and take the time to fix it before getting back in the game.

The system is actually working here.  She hasn't been fired and she has months worth of leave banked should she choose to use it.  She's just failing to make use of the support available to her.[/quote]

It is precisely the issue. OP is not “missing” 40% of her hours, she is using [b]earned[/b] time off to deal with [b]legitimate[/b] health issues. It is up to her employer to figure out how to fill the gaps and accommodate humans being humans. The fact that OP is so worried about having taken earned and reasonable time off is a red flag of the toxic work culture in this country. The fact that almost everyone in this thread immediately sympathized with the needs of the employer is also a red flag, it confirmed OP’s hunch.

It's obvious OP is burned out, as many working Americans are.  She has banked time off that she is afraid to take, because taking time off is seen as “missing work hours”. The primary advice to this woman should be to prioritize her health, take the time off she needs and not worry about her job. [/quote]

OP isn't using her time off though. She's trying to still work, she's spending 4 hours sending a single email, and falling asleep on the floor. She said she has something like 400 hours of leave.  Go in and talk to your boss about setting up a system to use it and get healthy. You generally don't get fired for that (unless you have a toxic workplace).  But you do get fired when you just don't show up multiple days a week, fall asleep in the office, miss deadlines (without being on leave) and do bad work.  [/quote]

She IS using her earned time off to take 1-2 days per week to care for sick children. She is terrified of taking more time off because she is already missing deadlines and understands she probably will get fired. The only job protection she has now is FMLA. I think most posters in this thread have never been in a situation similar to OP. The seasoned HR lady who responded in the first page was spot on. People get fired for missing deadlines, because deadlines never get moved and work never reassigned to accommodate employee needs. That’s what usually happens, an accommodating manager is rare.

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I’ve worked in HR for 25 years. Yes, absolutely people are fired for missing deliverables and deadlines due to missing work 1-2 times a week for weeks on end.

File for FMLA since you qualify. Your alternative is to make sure you stop missing deadlines by working nights and weekends to make up the time. Doesn’t sound like your health allows you to do that.[/quote][/quote]

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