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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel bad for Ukrainians dying- but the upside is lots of Russians are dying and having limbs blown off; the males that can are fleeing.  Russian population was already on the decline; Putin literally threw gas on the demise of their society.[/quote]

Excuse me, the upside?![/quote]

There are literally no military strategists who think Russia losing soldiers and equipment is a bad thing for the west.
If we knew the actual numbers of Russian KIA the west could run the number on the price per kill.

The US knows how much direct military hw it has given Ukraine.  Say it is 100k kia- if that actual cost is under 20k per kill that is good ROI.
When you factor in equipment loss for Russia the roi goes up even higher.
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Don’t be an idiot, PP.  the US alone has given Ukraine 68 Billion dollars and Biden just asked Congress for another 37.7 Billion.  There are may be 100,000 dead Russian soldiers.  That’s a pretty sucky ROI of more than a million per soldier (and that doesn’t even count what the Europeans have kicked in.).  And as fast as Ukraine is destroying Russian military equipment, they are also using up US and European munitions.  Some tanks have been fired so often, their barrels have worn out and need to be replaced.

The US is not supporting Ukraine out of the petty desire to grind Russia down.  Something far more fundamental is at stake - the European post- WWII order in which nations do not militarily invade each other and do not attack civilians or civilian infrastructure.  Russia has clearly stated its intention to wipe Ukraine off the map as a nation and has threatened a similar desire to others such as Poland or other countries (like the Baltics) which have significant Russian populations.

Durable peace in free societies is priceless.  That is why we are supporting Ukraine - not to grind down the Russian army, which many knew to be a corrupt shambles anyway due to Putin’s kleptocratic leadership.[/quote]

Russia running out of cruise missiles and artillery shells is a nice bonus though. If nothing else, Poland and the Baltic nations should sleep easier at night. [/quote]

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