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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] What makes you think that a BSBA with concentration in finance, analytics, or even marketing is different from BS in Computer science or electrical engineering. [/quote] Short answer: Marketing majors can't do math nor programming. Long answer: A typical undergrad business education has hardly any business classes in the first two years. Business is not a single subject. So, students must take accounting, finance, marketing, manufacturing or supply chain, organizational behavior, a required business law/antitrust class, perhaps nebulous "strategy", and technology. Maybe some more statistics/econometrics and math optimization. It is a lot of barely related courses. The math requirements for business are lightweight compared to requirements for science and engineering. Business students tend to be pragmatic, not intellectual. So, you might get a good education by taking rigorous math, analystics, and technology courses. But it is also possible to add a bunch of lightweight electives like "The Global Environment". A degree in computer science or engineering is guaranteed to be rigorous and coherent. [quote=Anonymous]When schools have undergraduate programs(again MIT, UPenn, Cornell, Georgetown, UVA, Emory, Berkely, UMish, Notre Dame, NYU, etc.), it's more valuable than econ in art and Science.[/quote] Obviously, a business major will be more business oriented than an economics major. But at schools without business majors, the business-oriented students congregate in economics, and they offer electives like financial economics that would ordinarily be in the business school. The difference is not extreme. Even if you think business is "more valuable", at what cost? The OP wrote about choosing a "Top 15" school instead of UVA McIntire. Presumably that means places like Northwestern, Brown, or Columbia without business majors. For whatever reason, US News ranks UVA #25, and UVA lacks the cachet of those private schools. Some students will find a better fit at UVA, and it is probably much cheaper and closer to home. Again, these are very different schools. But if cost and location are not issues, those private schools are probably better. Expensive private schools have professors teach, not T.A.'s. Richard Taylor substituted into a Harvard algebra class on Youtube. He is a historically famous mathematician who helped prove the 240-year-old Fermat's Last Theorem. That is what undergrads get at top schools, and it is rare for Nobel-caliber professors to teach undergrad business, especially at state schools. [/quote] The simply idea is that at universities with undergraduate business schools, economics is the major for those that couldn't get into the undergraduate business schools. So the cohort is inherently weaker. Of course at top schools like MIT, there will be a group that is interested in going on to do Ph.D. But most students will be undergraduate b-school rejects.[/quote]
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