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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, you need to get involved or move. The trouble is, so few people actually vote or pay attention, its easy for fundamentalist groups -- or any group willing to do the work -- to come in and take over.[/quote]

For about 5 years there have been groups of people in my town fighting the over building, the permits for dormitories (remember this is a semi-rural town now), the massive quantity  of schools and duplexes and other high density housing, the blockbusting, the takeover of the school board, etc.   Plenty of us were involved and it did absolutely nothing.  I could fill a book with the horrible things that have been done to friends and neighbors in this town.

Anyone that says this is about what religion they are practicing is insulting all of us that have to uproot our lives or live with people that teach their kids to spit on other kids and yell "gentiles get out this is our town now", throw eggs at our homes, kill chickens by whipping them around by the neck and then throwing them into garbage cans to rot, some of them still alive (a protected religious ritual apparently), etc.

I couldn't give a shit what religion someone practices but these are just a few examples of things that have been done in my town.    Not to mention the blockbusting.  Over 25% of the residences in my town are now apparently owned by LLCs that are owned by Hasidic people, and they rent the homes out to multiple families at a time.  Around the corner there are 4 families living in one home.   It is part of the blockbusting tactic.     They recently threatened that if their schools weren't approved (7 just on one road near me), then they would force the zoning board to allow the high density homes with 8 bedrooms that they have going up in another town.   FYI we have one acre zoning here, and they are forcing our hand to either eliminate that or allow 7 schools on a residential semi-rural road that can in no way handle the capacity of 7 schools.  Our quality of life will be nil.

There is a previously beautiful retirement village in my town that  has been decimated as well.   So many of the retired people that bought their homes and expected to live in peace there for the rest of their lives are moving because of these things listed, as well as the fact that the boards of these HOAs have been taken over as well and the by laws changed to where couples can no longer swim together because their religion prohibits men and women swimming together.

Again....I hope anyone reading that dares to insult me by saying this is about anti semitism thinks again and ponders whether they would even consider living in a town like this.

It is very sad for all of us.    I have heard I would have to leave the state if I want my children to never have to deal with this in their lifetimes.

In case anyone hasn't guess yet, I live in NJ.    Look up Lakewood, NJ.  The largest Yeshiva in the world, including Israel is in Lakewood.

they followed ZERO covid restrictions and were taking buses back and forth to Brooklyn during even the height of the pandemic for weddings, funerals, etc.

It makes life very difficult to live around a group like this.  I'd rather move next to the Amish.  At least they don't take anything from the government.  The Hasidic practically live off the government in many ways I won't go into.

Any denial of anything they want is met with a lawsuit claiming antisemitism.    And they win.

If you want to go down the rabbit hole, there are plenty of links in this thread about Kiryas Joel, Monsey, Ramapo, Lakewood, etc.   I can't even enjoy my home anymore knowing I'm just gearing up to sell because I'm pretty much being forced to.

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I know about Lakewood, but I'd never guessed it because... Lakewood was Hasidic even 25 years ago.  I know, I visited some families there in the late 1990s.   It's not a recent change.

Unfortunately, it's a feature of democracy - if a majority of people in your town want to live a certain way, your options are join or leave.  [/quote]

Join lol!?!?  No thanks we are leaving and can’t get out fast enough.

However it is NOT democracy because there is a LOT of illegal things going on that are actually affecting all taxpayers and I hope anyone involved will get their due at some point for all of our sakes because there is proof that there are thousands of people just in Lakewood alone that Do not have , nor do they want , enough education for I support themselves and we will all be paying to support them .  There are videos I’ve seen of classes on how to game the system to get money so they can not work and just sit in a room all day studying and arguing about an ancient document .  It’s bizarre that more people aren’t up in arms if you ask me.

I can’t get far enough away from ANY group of people that have their morals no matter what they call themselves [/quote]
So what is the community’s end goal for revenue? If no one is working because you driven all the taxpayers out of town, how will these schools operate? I thought one of the great things about NJ is the schools are funded at the local town level?[/quote]

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