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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course they're not altruistic. The hardest to get specialities are ROAD 2 riches, as they're high paying and easy hours. If they were altruistic, family practice and internal medicine wouldn't be struggling to find providers. [/quote]

But, most doctors are family practice, and pediatrics, and internal medicine.[/quote]

I have a pediatrician in my family and most of our friends are doctors.  Of those, a vast majority are family medicine or some sort of pediatrics.  They are all good people who work long hours and are not paid very much compared to their surgeon peers.

The surgeons we know also work long hours but are paid very well and are generally pricks.  The shortage of people willing to go into family medicine is driving some of the salaries higher where I live, but still doesn't compare to an adult specialist salary.  [/quote]

I will say this in defense of surgeons.. they can practice medicine for a much shorter time span, so they have a shorter earning window.

And of course drs are not altruistic-- they routinely deny pain meds to people of color even when they know that there are underlying conditions that cause pain and that melanin can protect against sun burn but not physical pain.  Defensive medicine is also really bad  for patients but that is what they practice.. no-one wants to get sued.  The compensation system in the US is cancerous, even the most kind person is going to get caught up. I say this as someone who has ton of physicians in my family and social circle- friends in Australia, Uk and here, lost of Canadian drs who have come here as well as a few in the EU. The US system is bad for morale but they do make a shit ton of  $$ comparatively.   Drs trained here also are so likely to deny women maternal care.. I hear horror stories all the time about drs trained elsewhere who had to fight their us trained colleagues to give mothers appropriate care but then the NHS ones laugh and say that the maternal care in UK is a horror story for pretty much all women its so bare bones so ..[/quote]

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