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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Okay, I haven't dated men in over 20 years and am married to a woman... Do men really say things like, "you have to go through me to get to her" (SK) and other possessive things? I can't remember other specific examples. Also, do the women like this macho behavior? Even if the men are joking around, there is some truth to it or they wouldn't say it at all. [/quote]

No, nobody should be saying that. I am wondering if maybe it’s a little bit of a machismo hangover from his culture? Still, not really excusable, but otherwise I think he is a really intelligent and nice guy. And he’s really trying to get to know his very cold, I’m interested if fiancé and make her happy without being over bearing. He’s probably the biggest class act on the show. [/quote]

I get the same impression of SK although I don’t feel like I really know him that well through what they’ve shown  us. I do think he seems like he would be receptive though to someone telling him they aren’t comfortable with that type of language and I don’t think he would close down that conversation or be unwilling to change the way he interacts. Also, aside from the potential of it being cultural I wonder if he perceives raven to be the type of woman who would like that kind of machismo and find it appealing. Especially when another man is interested in her. I definitely see her as this type so I wonder if he does, too, and is trying to win her over. Personally, I am not a big fan of Raven and I do not think she is worth winning over[/quote]

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