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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DCUM loafers above are already showing their better than thou attitudes. No, fit is not overrated - just wait till one of your kids is miserable and depressed at the wrong school. Yes, super smart kids often attend the most party heavy schools. [/quote] People focus on fit when their kid can't get into a top 20 school. Sorry. Poor people say money can't buy you happiness. Of course it does. Vacations, nice restaurants, etc. It buys experiences which has been shown to be linked to happiness. I don't have enough money so I am not happy as I could be. I have some but not enough. [/quote] People focus on rankings more than fit when the care about their own egos more than their kids' well-being.[/quote] Or maybe when they care about career opportunities ?[/quote] If you take full advantage of what's offered, career opportunities are the same regardless of whether you attend a school ranked in the top 10 or one ranked 50-100.[/quote] This may be true for certain STEM majors, but it definitely is not true for business (except data science & accounting) or humanities majors. Of course, there are exceptions and there are special super honors programs that may yield similar opportunities.[/quote] Not true for business undergrad really and for humanities majors. Kids at schools ranked 100+ still get great jobs with a business degree, and go onto get MBAs at top notch universities (and for MBA where you get it does matter much more) [/quote] Well, we disagree. For example, many high profile, prestigious companies interview at only the top ranked schools for rotational management positions. Of course, there are exceptions based on location as corporate HQ want to maintain good relations with the local community. For humanities majors, I have difficulty accepting your statement. Could you please provide an example or two ? (I am not trying to be argumentative; I am genuinely curious about this.)[/quote] Companies that interview only at elite universities do so because it's more efficient, not because they aren't interested in hiring excellent applicants from other schools. They'd be foolish to ignore superstars just because of where they studied.[/quote] I agree with you that MBB/BB IB are foolish in ignoring superstars just because of where they studied, but unfortunately for those positions it DOES matter where you went to undergrad. Much more than major, in fact. [/quote] So think about it this way. If you got to certain reputable basketball schools, you have a better chance of making the NBA e.g. UNC, Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA etc. The blue bloods as they are called. Same with football-Alabama or other SEC schools, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. Same thing here. Yes once in a while you have a Scottie Pippen from Central Arkansas or Steph Curry from Davidson--but it is a harder path. The blue bloods open doors for you. That's all. [/quote] There are more NBA players from Ohio State and Michigan because most of the best players are recognizable already in high school, and the big basketball universities get first pick. The same is true for those most likely to succeed using their intellect, where colleges highest in the rankings get first pick. If BU and Penn State were to suddenly get all the best engineering and business students, you can bet that every employer would be begging to recruit there.[/quote]
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