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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote] Quality is same as here, there are great schools, good schools and meh schools [/quote] No, they're not (and that's an unhelpfully vague split-the-difference response for a detail-oriented DCUM website, where readers often submit dozens of comments on the perceived differences between "T20" and "T25" schools). All the ranking surveys of global universities disproportionately over-represent the leading US universities toward the top, and under-represent EU universities. If you look at the Shanghai (ARWU) rankings - am going Chinese to avoid any home-town bias with USNews or London Times, etc -- 17 of the top 25 ranked global universities are in the US. Of the top 100 ARWU global universities, of which the US has 39, (non-EU) UK and Switzerland, and the (EU) Nordics, have proportionate representation, but of the larger EU members, Germany has only 4, France has only four, Italy none, Spain none, etc. You might say "well, my kid isn't getting into Stanford, so those top rankings are moot." Maybe. But to look at it another way, a ~B student who goes to one of the US schools that's ranked 40th-55th among US universities on this list -- say, schools like CU Boulder or Arizona or Pitt or Ohio State or Indiana (that accept 60-80% of their applicants) -- is still going to a university that's ranked among the top 150 in the whole world. By comparison, if you go to the 50th best university in Germany, you haven't cracked the global top 1000. If you to the 30th best university in France, you haven't cracked the global top 1000. In Italy and Spain, if you don't go to one of their top ten universities, you're not in the top 500 in the world. Those are meaningful distinctions in perceived educational quality, at least to employers and grad schools (if not to PP). [/quote] 50th university in Germany? Who goes there? One of th advantages of some European universities is admission criteria. They often don’t care about extraxurrixulars, soup kitchens, having a good story etc.for some kids it’s much easier to get into a top schools in Europe than in the US. [/quote]
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