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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Two thoughts occurred to me this morning: 1. It would be absolutely insane for someone who has already been president, then lost his reelection, to go back and get in the mix again. [b]Have to prove himself up against the Cruzes and Rubios and all them. [/b]Seems extra humiliating and weird. 2. If Trump and DeSantis were both in the race, wouldn't they likely split the MAGA vote and leave room for some third candidate to actually get the nom? Someone normal - please gd - or at least normal enough. I don't know who that would be. I guess Hogan is going for it - he seems hopeless to me but this path makes it seem slightly less hopeless.[/quote]ly if Prove himself against the Cruzes and Rubios? Overall, I like the thought process of your post, but also, what are you smoking? Trump crushed Cruz and Rubio and both of them have been huge Trump bootlickers since 2016. They are already crushed. They crushed themselves. [b]DeSantis might still run against Trump, but only if he can get enough support and assurance that Fox and the like will back him publicly against Trump. [/b]Or if the GOP tells Trump they won't pay his legal bills if he runs again so he doesn't run. And there's certainly no guarantee there. The midterms will be an interesting test. If the Republicans lose big in what should historically be a winning year for them then real soul-searching will have to be done. You can't lose the White House, House, Senate, and then lose the House and Senate again and keep going down that path. And if Dems are able to pick up enough Senate seats to force through court reform, bye bye conservative Supreme Court majority.[/quote] FWIW Alex Jones has already endorsed DeSantis.[/quote] I don't mean this as a snark on you, but an about to be bankrupt lunatic is not going to carry actual weight with the people in charge. In fact, Jones may screw himself because the true believer Trumpers are 100% loyal to Trump. [/quote] That’s true of the hardcore cultists but the rank and file Republicans will fall in line with whoever they nominate. And at this point I’m not sure how large the “Only Trump” voting bloc actually is. [/quote] This is not necessarily true. A significant contributor towards Biden's win was the number of disenfranchised Republicans and right-leaning Independents who felt that the Republican party had completely abandoned them. As Trump's influence waxes again, more and more Republicans (Liz Cheney, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt Romney, Ben Sasse, and the various incumbents ousted by new Trump-supported candidates are feeling like they are now abandoned. These are people who stuck with Trump the last time around, but during the last 2 years, Trump has cast them aside and waged open war on them. Some are the small subset who voted to impeach him, but others are ones who won't go along with the Big Lie. Trump only sees those who are blindly Faithful in their orange god and casts the rest aside. The first round of cast-asides voted against him in 2020 and helped elect Biden. He still has enough influence to win primaries, but I think he's going to find out that he's exiled too many Republicans who are also going to flee the cult. They are going to vote against Trump-backed candidates in 2022 and they will vote against him in 2024. I believe he has alienated more people than Biden's lackluster stewardship have and I think if we had another head-to-head between them in 2024, that the result will be the same. There will be several million people that vote differently than they did in 2020, but the result will be about the same.[/quote]
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