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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Name a top 25 school where black or brown students represent more than 30% of the student body, and where Asian students aren't over represented (based on US population or the state). [/quote] Relevance? Do you somehow think that the racial breakdown of a college class should match that if the country at large? Seriously? [/quote] The colleges do, yes, for one primary reason. The same reason your kid probably wouldn’t want to attend and excellent school like Spelman. It’s hard to attract students who feel out of place, and better for all students if they get perspectives from outside a bubble.[/quote] They don't want to match. They want to look they have minimal diversity in race, sex, geography, etc. which sounds OK With this hard working low to mid class Whites and Asians get penalized and rich and previlleged URMs and foreigners get most of the benefits. There's no perfect system for college or any other systems in the society. We have no choice but just play along. [/quote] Nobody gets "penalized". Unless you think everyone rejected is "penalized". Unless you think CS students are "penalized" at MIT because there are more of them applying. Colleges pick whoever they want as long as they don't break the law, and generally they do so with good intent, focus on campus missions, and without racism. Fact is if suddenly one year nearly no qualified Asian applicants applied to Harvard the Asian acceptance rate would be sky-high. Is that the reverse of penalized, or is it logical? And BTW, when you write a sentence like "[i]hard working low to mid class Whites and Asians get penalized and rich and previlleged[/i] [sic] [i]URMs[/i]" well man that shows some majorly racist thinking. You might want to examine that. You don't know anywhere near enough of the kids at any of those schools to make any kind of judgement about them. [/quote] LOL so you are admitting that Asian students have to compete with other Asian students just like CS applicants compete with other CS applicants. Do you even know what you're talking about? I'm sure it's good intention(diversity), but when colleges use racial quota, there are more qualified students penalized. Schools make judgments based on color, that's more racist. There are schools that don't do that like CalTech. There are good intentions, but there are also unfairness. But then again there's no such thing as a perfect system. No need to deny the fact. I'm not here for political correctness. You are insulting your own intelligence. Save your preaching for your kids. [/quote]
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