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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes.  We are Indian-American.   I would say it is an absolute must for my DS.

Perhaps OP is White, but we have to always include racism and bias in our calculus at all times. My kid is not going to be given handouts and he is not networked. Whatever he gets in life, he will get only because he is exponentially better than others. So yes, internships, independent projects, research etc...everything counts and is essential.  
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On my team of 30 developers, 3 are US born non-Indian and non-Asian (2 AA, one white).   One is Iranian, one is Sudanese, one is Korean.  The rest are Indian or Pakistani (i.e. not born in US). All are US citizens (US federal contractors).

TBH, Indian/Pakistani is somewhat the default.  [/quote]

Why do you think that is?  Are white kids just late to the game (i.e. just now getting com sci degrees, whereas the Indian/Pakistani teammates you referenced were in comsci years ago?)  Seems like 90% of kids these days are going to college for comsci degrees (or IT).  When I read the college plans of schools like TJHSST, all I see are comsci degree kids. [b] I am starting to wonder if there are going to be any medical doctors in 10 yrs[/b].[/quote]

Medical doctors are getting imported from India. Mainly because 4 year medical school in India starts after 12th grade, unlike US. Fully qualified young doctors come from India to the US, do their residency all over again (while being paid a stipend) to be able to practice here, and before you know the American dream is theirs. Without the stress of student debt, or unemployment, or being able to clear medical school.

It will be ridiculous for my kids to become medical doctors in US by studying in US medical college because medical college starts after 4 years of undergrad. It costs money and precious years of your youth (20s and 30s) where you have basically not even enjoyed life, dated, married, travelled, or built up a nest egg. Then these people come out with huge debts and a paycheck that a newly minted CS grad is getting.

My CS kid is getting $$$ in merit aid to do CS. We are UMC with 100% EFC.  Our only cost will be the money for his food and car. He will already be ahead by 200K by the time he finishes his degree. And he will start earning by 21. [/quote]

Having a medical degree= job security YOu can say what you want but if the kid is passionate he will be a great medical doctor and they can pay off their loans quickly too. [/quote]

I don’t trust the lack of basic science education reflected in the Indian system and among Indian doctors. [/quote]

How exactly has it affected you?  Your Indian doctor did not know if a tomato was a fruit or vegetable?  :lol:    An anecdote would be nice to understand where you are coming from.

Becoming a doctor in the US is not a rosy path for Indian doctors.  They have to repeat their residencies (because it is required in the US) and much like any US doctor kid can be placed anywhere in the US.  After Residency, their visas do not allow them to stay (it's called an exchange visitor visa) so they have to either leave the country for a period of time (I think it's 3 years) or take up a job at an under-served area of the country (downtown hospitals or boondock hick towns that no US doctor wants to go and work at).  Then get a job, wait for many years for a green card, etc.  A friend of mine who went through 6 additional years of specialized education after US residency had to go live outside the country before coming back.

Remember that the ones do come here are the cream of the crop.  Have to be since they are taking away residency slots from US-born kids that went through med school.  Yes, some med school kids do not get matched to a residency.

Also, most med schools in the US only require about six core "pre-med" courses.  That's a semester worth of courses for a motivated kid, maybe two. No reason to make them waste time in undergrad college.  But the system is what the system is.. corrupt and focused on extracting as much revenue from parents as possible to give your snowflakes the 'college experience'.  [/quote]

A semester’s worth? LOL you lost all your credibility. [/quote]

Great comeback!  :roll:  Clown.[/quote]

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