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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I still can’t believe paternity leave is a thing. Do others have to pick up his slack when he’s gone? Does it take two people to care for a baby? My kids were born on a Tuesday and a Wednesday. DH was back at work Monday each time. [/quote]

[b]Shut up[/b]. [/quote]

Yet another spoiled whiner.  You will never be the Greatest Generation.  The Snowflake Generation, maybe. [/quote]

What exactly did the greatest generation do that was so great? [/quote]

yes, also, caring for a child you helped create is sooo snowflakey  :roll: [/quote]

DP. I’m not opposed at all to paternity leave, but this BS “give everyone the same amount” is absurd. It totally undercuts women who work at small companies who can’t afford to give every single employee 12 weeks off paid with every child. Men don’t give birth, despite this weird narrative going around. Part of maternity leave is recuperating from the body upheaval one goes through after giving birth. Men should be able to take a couple of weeks to bond and help out while the woman is in the thick of healing. Beyond that, yeah it’s pretty snowflake-y, judging by the fact that humanity has been around for thousands of years and *just now* men feel entitled to three months off PAID after every birth of their kid.

Can we just get universal paid maternity leave for women first? Can we just start there? Sheesh. 
-millennial [/quote]

I totally disagree.

For thousands of years, men HAVE been actively involved in raising their infants the first few months. Human babies require more care and attention than any other animal, and we wouldn’t have survived if only mothers cared for babies.

Men do need the extra rest, because they are also getting up multiple times a night to help out those first few months.

And most importantly, research has found men with longer paternity leave spend more time on childcare. This is extremely important for children’s well being AND for women, as a man who participates more with his children eases the burden placed on moms for childcare. If men are also able to leave work early, have flexible hours, take time off for doctor’s appointments, etc that is less responsibility placed on moms.

Also, I own a small business and bottom line is that if I can’t afford to give parental leave, I can’t afford to hire someone. I’ve found it is more cost effective and better for my business overall if I invest the money in hiring the right person and giving them things like leave, rather than hiring someone less qualified and then cleaning up their mistakes and having to hire a new person when they decide not to come back after having a baby. There are MANY other ways to help woman-owned businesses that are more effective than just excusing them from giving parental leave.

And I don’t buy the “recovery” argument. I recovered right away after both my births. Even after a c section, I was back to 100% within a few days. Does that mean I should have to go back to work earlier than someone who needs the full 12 weeks?[/quote]

Where’s the research that shows men need 3 months paid paternity leave to maximize their 18 years of childcaring responsibilities? Lol. I’ll wait.

Also, what color is the sky in your world? No, women do not recover in 3 days. You certainly did not recover in 3 days if you had a c section. You may have *felt* fine, which is vastly different than actual recovery. Men have no physical recovery after the birth of a child. That is a fact. [/quote]

Google is your friend. There’s been many studies done that found longer paternity leave leads to fathers being more involved and more mothers returning to the workplace.

If you aren’t interested in actually reading the research so you can keep saying “LOL!” then don’t. [b]But it’s there[/b]. [/quote]

No, it’s not. Even if your thesis is true, the research can’t exist because no man was taking three months paid leave >18 years ago, idiot. [/quote]

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